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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

4052.0. "File Cab Server dies - SRV73 process loops ...." by OSLACT::BJARNEC_P (The last boat left without me .....) Wed Apr 06 1994 12:55

    ALL-IN-1 V3.0-A 
    TLC020
    VMS 5.5-2
    Teamlinks V2.0 (approx 20 users + lots of others still using ALL-IN-1)
    
    
    Hi,
    
    A customer of ours that has recently upgraded ALL-IN-1 to V3.0-A, 
    installed TLC020 and are running Teamlinks V2.0 has a problem with
    their FCS.  From time to time the server goes into a "STOPPED" state
    and the Teamlinks users are not able to perform any FC operations. 
    Looking at the FC Server process (NORSK1$SRV73) it is still there,
    using roughly 100% of the CPU - and it appears to be looping.
    
    Deleting this process and restarting the FCS from the MFC menu starts
    it back up OK and it will then run fine for a while.  Yesterday this
    happened twice and today, so far, it has happened once.  I have
    switched on the FCS Tracing for them, so the next time it runs wilde we
    may be able to provide some more info.  All I have found are a few
    lines in the OAFC$SERVER.LOG file.  I have included an extract of this
    file below, but I am not sure what of it is relevant to their problem. 
    The error messages from March (Insufficient Virtual Memory) appears to
    have stopped since they increased the OAFC Server Accounts quotas.  The
    only thing that has been written to this file over the last good few
    days are the "Error: OAFC-I-UNKNOWNNODE ....." lines.
    
    A couple of other bits of info:
    
    The Virtual page count is 500 000 (SYSGEN> Virtualpagecnt = 500 000),
    and the logical name OAFC$SERVER_PGFLQUOTA = 80 000.
    
    
    This is a serious and major problem happening on the customers'
    production system so any advice, hint or fix-suggestion would be very 
    much appreciated!
    
    
    Regards,
    
    	Bjarne
    
    
    
23-MAR-1994 08:54:53.56  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-I-UNKNOWNNODE, 
    A proxy connection was attempted from unknown remote node, 
    default proxy account used.  Message: SecCheckProxy; Attempted proxy
    check from unknown node.

23-MAR-1994 08:54:54.99  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %DSL-E-INSFMEM, 
    Insufficient virtual memory  

23-MAR-1994 10:12:56.86  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INTERR, 
    Internal error in File Cabinet Server  Message: Insufficient memory

23-MAR-1994 10:12:57.27  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INSMEM, 
    Insufficient memory for File Cabinet Server  


23-MAR-1994 11:08:25.08  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INTERR, 
    Internal error in File Cabinet Server  Message: Insufficient memory

23-MAR-1994 11:08:25.38  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INSMEM, 
    Insufficient memory for File Cabinet Server  


23-MAR-1994 12:29:49.50  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-THREADACCVIO, 
    An FCS thread access violated, please submit an SPR  Message:
    FCS has access violated, please submit an SPR.

23-MAR-1994 12:32:32.81  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INTERR, 
    Internal error in File Cabinet Server  Message: Insufficient memory

23-MAR-1994 12:32:32.99  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INSMEM, 
    Insufficient memory for File Cabinet Server  

23-MAR-1994 14:52:53.98  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-E-INTERR, 
    Internal error in File Cabinet Server  

23-MAR-1994 14:52:54.64  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, 
    insufficient virtual memory  

    
 6-APR-1994 10:58:31.44  Server: NORSK1::"73="  Error: %OAFC-I-UNKNOWNNODE, 
    A proxy connection was attempted from unknown remote node, default 
    proxy account used.  Message: SecCheckProxy; Attempted proxy check 
    from unknown node.
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4052.1some things to checkAIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta's Most (In)famous WelshmanWed Apr 06 1994 17:4716
    bjarne,
    
    can you identify what PC is causing the unknown node message? that
    error is usually the VAX not knowing the PC or vice versa.
    
    most of the other memory errors could be explained away by raising the
    FCS quotas - unless they reappear that is.
    
    one other thing to check is that the FCS images in SYS$SYSTEM and
    SYS$LIBRARY are really V3.0A ones and not v3.0/v3.0-1 - do a date on
    them or an analyze and make sure they aren't in SYS$SPECIFIC.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
             
4052.2Can't find the culprit / MUPA looks fine51887::BJARNEC_PThe last boat left without me .....Thu Apr 07 1994 14:5481
    Andrew,
    
    
    I have not managed to identify which PC is causing the "UNKNOWNNODE
    ..." message in the log file.  Any other place I could look to find
    this out?
    
    I did a <get sm$_mupa_version on the customers ALL-IN-1 system
    concluding that this is a "proper" 3.0-A system:
    
    --> ALL-IN-1 IOS Server for VMS V3.0A (MUPA) BL61A 16-Dec-1993
    
    A <get sm$_tlc_version showed:
    
    --> TeamLinks Connection Package V2.0 BL41 26-NOV-1993
    
    
    I enabled trace yesterday and after a crach or two this morning I have
    a horrendously large, NORSK1$SERVER73_TRACE.DAT, from which I have
    created a readable OAFC_TRACE.TXT output file which I will put on 
    SNORRE:: as soon as I get hold of it (being mailed at present ....).
    
    Checking OPERATOR.LOG and an output from ACC/FULL/SINC gave no
    indication of the cause of the problem.
    
    
    Also, a dir of the customers systems SYS$SYSTEM: + SYS$LIBRARY: areas show
    the following:
    
    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]
    
    OAFC$CLIENT_SHR.EXE;3
                            222   8-FEB-1994 17:52:32.18
    OAFC$LIBRARY.OLB;1     1090  12-MAR-1992 09:51:43.67
    OAFC$LINK.OPT;1           1  12-MAR-1992 09:51:41.27
    OAFC$MESSAGES.SDI;1
                             16  12-MAR-1992 09:52:52.95
    OAFC$MTS_PRIV_SHR.EXE;5
                             15  15-FEB-1994 17:25:09.73
    OAFC$MTS_SHR.EXE;1     2481  12-MAR-1992 09:53:06.89
    OAFCDEF.H;2              44   8-FEB-1994 17:51:57.13
    OAFCDEF.R32;1            29  12-MAR-1992 09:48:36.78
    OAFCDEF.SDL;2            53   8-FEB-1994 17:51:58.38
    OAFCEXT.H;3              94   8-FEB-1994 17:51:59.64
    OAFCEXT.R32;1            88  12-MAR-1992 09:49:17.71
    OAFCEXT.SDI;1           101  12-MAR-1992 09:49:59.86
    OAFCEXT.SDL;3            97   8-FEB-1994 17:52:00.98
    
    Total of 13 files, 4331 blocks.
    
    
    $ dir sys$system:oafc*
    
    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]
    
    OAFC$CONVERT_SYSTEM_FOLDERS.EXE;1
                            117   8-FEB-1994 17:52:33.74
    OAFC$CREATE_SERVER.EXE;3
                             42  26-NOV-1993 13:13:26.14
    OAFC$MTS_PRIV_SHR.EXE;4
                             15   8-DEC-1993 15:04:00.26
    OAFC$PRINT_TRACE_LOG.EXE;3
                              5   8-FEB-1994 17:52:36.24
    OAFC$SERVER.EXE;6       814  15-FEB-1994 17:25:25.43
    OAFC$SYSFOLD_SEED.EXE;3
                            139   8-FEB-1994 17:52:37.49
    
    Total of 6 files, 1132 blocks.
    
    
    
    Everything looks in perfect order to me!  I'm in the process of
    submitting an IMPT since the customer is getting rather fed up with
    this nuisance.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    
    	Bjarne                                                         
    
4052.3some more thoughtsAIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta&#039;s Most (In)famous WelshmanThu Apr 07 1994 15:4520
    Bjarne,
    
    if you only have 20 PCs you could check the server knows all of them
    and that each of them knows the server - it wouldn't take too long.
    
    there are two MTS_PRIV_SHRs one in each directory - that's not a good
    sign, get rid of the old one. I also wasn't too sure about the dates since
    they appear to predate the release of the MUP?TLC did the customer get
    a network copy. also the OAFC$CREATE_SERVER looked old. 
    
    You'll need to restart the FCS after cleaning out the old images.
    
    I'd give a good set of dates/images only our machine decided to end its
    life last night and despite no end of swearing at it refuses to boot
    this morning - the doctors and priests of Field Services have been
    summoned to pronounce on it.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
4052.4Done, but I doubt it'll help .....51887::BJARNEC_PThe last boat left without me .....Fri Apr 08 1994 17:1229
    Andrew,
    
    I have copied both the readable output of the  FCS TRACE file from
    yeasterday and the OAFC$SERVER.LOG file to SNORRE::
    
    Also, as suggested in .3, I have renamed the old
    OAFC$MTS_PRIV_SHR.EXE to a different name.  The server has not been
    restarted yet, but this will be done at some point during the weekend. 
    The image I renamed was located in SYS$SYSTEM, but I also checked
    memory and only the newest one (which is located on SYS$LIBRARY) was
    installed in memory so my renaming probably will have no effect.
    
    An ANAL/IMAGE  of the OAFC$CREATE_SERVER.EXE (dated 26-NOV-1993) showed
    the following:
    
    	            image name: "OAFC$CREATE_SERVER"
                    image file identification: "OAFC_TLC V3.0B"
                    link date/time: 19-NOV-1993 16:44:39.84
                    linker identification: "05-13"
     
    
    I will be away out of the office for the next two weeks, but someone
    else will be following up this case and therefore any help here is much
    appreciated!
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    	Bjarne