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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3839.0. "LN08R landscape printing." by SIOG::GODWYER () Tue Feb 01 1994 17:27

    Hi,
    
    Since upgrading to ALL-IN-1 V3.0 I have a problem printing to the
    Declaser 3250 (ln08r) in Landscape format. 
    
    My queue is started in CPS$STARTUP and when I print to it from $ level
    using /PAGE_ORIENTATION=LANDSCAPE the output is perfect. However I
    cannot get the same output from within ALL-IN-1.
    
    I referred to note 1572.3 in this conference and set up an
    alternative print style called LN08LAND with a vertical pitch of 6 and
    a horizontal pitch of 14. However when I print from the ALL-IN-1
    manager's account with my new print style it seems to use the
    Horizontol Pitch setting in my default pagination settings of 10.
    
    This means that even with my new print style, including HP set to 14,
    I still have to hit next screen and change the HP value to 14 to get
    the output I want. This defeats the purpose of my LN08LAND print style.
    
    Does anyone have a ALL-IN-1 print style for an LN08R printer that
    resembles the output from /page_orientation=landscape or can they see
    where I am going wrong here ???
    
    Thanks and Regards,
    
    Gary. 
    
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3839.1What are you printing?IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Feb 01 1994 17:3712
What type of file are you printing from DCL?  Is it a simple ASCII text 
file which does not contain any printer control sequences?

What type of document are you printing from ALL-IN-1?  Since you are 
chaning Horizontal Pitch, etc. it would seem to be a document which is 
formatted using WPS-PLUS.  It's probable that the WPS-PLUS formatter is 
inserting printer control sequences which overide what is done by a 
/PAGE_ORIENTATION=LANDSCAPE.


Richard

3839.2Pure text files.SIOG::GODWYERTue Feb 01 1994 17:477
    Richard,
    
    The files I am printing in both cases are simple ASCII text files with
    no special control sequences
    
    Gary.
    
3839.3Document Handling?IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Feb 01 1994 18:2712
More questions...

1.  What is the Handling and Data type of your ALL-IN-1 document?  This
    information can be displayed by selecting the document and typing
    Gold-V. 

2.  When you print the document from ALL-IN-1 and press NEXT-SCREEN on the 
    'Printing Document' menu is the 'WPS-PLUS Formatter Print Settings' 
    menu displayed?


Richard
3839.4more info'.SIOG::GODWYERWed Feb 02 1994 10:439
    Richard,
    
    The handling field is blank and data type is wps-plus. 
    
    When I press next screen the WPS-PLUS Formatter Print Settings Menu
    is given.
    
    Gary.
    
3839.5So it's not ASCIIIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Feb 02 1994 11:0218
In that case your answer in .2 was wrong.  A data type of WPS-PLUS means 
that it is a WPS-PLUS document and is not an ASCII file.  What you are 
printing from ALL-IN-1 is not the same as what you printed from DCL.

WPS-PLUS documents will be formatted by the WPS-PLUS formatter which 
defaults to portrait.  The ALL-IN-1 Printer Destination for your DEClaser 
is probably set-up such that WPS-PLUS formatting will use the DECLASER 
WPS-PLUS Printer Table.  This will result in the listing file containing 
control sequences to set portrait printing.


How did you create the WPS-PLUS document?

Do you wnat your document to be WPS-PLUS or ASCII?


Richard

3839.6WPSPLUS in ALL-IN-1SIOG::GODWYERWed Feb 02 1994 11:5512
    Richard,
    
    Apologies for the mistake concerning the data-type.
    
    I create the WPS-PLUS document in WP using my default editor WPSPLUS.
    As my default editor is WPSPLUS (similar to most of the users) I want
    my files to be created as WPSPLUS files. I hope this clarifies
    everything concerning data-type in ALL-IN-1. T
    
    Regards,
    
    Gary.
3839.7See your system managerIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Feb 02 1994 14:2710
I suggest that you contact your system manager to see if any other changes
were made to your system when it was upgraded.  In particular were any
Printer Destinations or Print Styles changed or created 

Could you clarify what you did when you 'set-up an alternative print style
called LN08LAND'.  Were you using the 'User Print Styles' menu?


Richard

3839.8system manager, That's me!!SIOG::GODWYERWed Feb 02 1994 15:2813
    Richard,
    
    I am the system manager. I created the print style using the PT option
    from WP in the ALL-IN-1 manager's account. To do this I followed the
    steps outlined in note 1572.3 of this conference.
    Regarding changes to PRINT STYLES, I am currently using the Declaser
    print style for the LN08. I had to modify this to take out a reference
    to one of the trays which was giving a nasty "Setpapertray" error. This
    should not effect anything related to what I am doing here. When
    creating my LN08LAND print style I used the Declaser print style as a
    template. 
    
    Gary.
3839.9WPS-PLUS Printer TablesIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Feb 02 1994 15:5411
You confused me because the WP PT option is used to create and modify 
WPS-PLUS Printer Tables which are used only by the WPS-PLUS Formatter

ALL-IN-1 Print Styles are different and are used to control how all types
of final form files are printed. 

Questions about WPS-PLUS Printer Tables are best asked in the WPS-PLUS on 
node MAGIC::.


Richard
3839.10Include page size in DECVPFS landscape sequenceCOPCLU::ELINElin Christensen @DMO, DTN 857-2406Mon Feb 07 1994 17:0482
    I am not sure if I have understood what the problem is in this note.
    
    If your problem is that landscape printing in ANSI mode gets wrapped in
    a wrong place, then edit the .PRA file, so that page size gets included
    in the DECVPFS sequence used for selecting LANDSCAPE:
    
WPS-PLUS v4.1: Landscape printing wraps on DEClaser 2250 before 132 chars.

PRODUCT:   WPS-PLUS v4.1 under ALL-IN-1 v3.0

DATE:   14-JUN-1993


SYMPTOMS/PROBLEM:

A user prints a 132 characters wide WPS-PLUS document in Landscape to a
DEClaser 2250, but text gets wrapped before the end of the lines.

Printer table DECLSRA4 and form ALLIN1 with a width of 511 is used.


ANALYSIS:

When printing with the same printer table to a DEClaser 1100, 
or with an LN03 table to LN03 or to LN03-R, the printout is OK.

But when printing with DECLSRA4 table to an LN03-R, the text also gets 
wrapped.

It seems that the ANSI translator treats the DECVPFS sequence <CSI>2 z 
differently from how this sequence is treated on a non-PostScript printer.

According to Digital ANSI compliant Printing Protocol, if paper length and
width are not included in the DECVPFS sequence, these parameters will be set
to default for selected tray or casette. 
It seems that this is what happens if a PostScript printer is used.


SOLUTION:

Change the DECVPFS sequence so that paper length and width get included.
Note that the SSU sequence <CSI>2 I or <CSI>7 I determines the size unit 
that should be used.

In the DECLSRA4 table - with 1/300 inch as size unit - we have changed 

    %WPS%
    <ESC>[2 z<ESC>[3358t<ESC>[1;s
    <ESC>[1 z<ESC>[3358t
    %WPS%

to

    %WPS%
    <ESC>[2;2480;3508 z<ESC>[3358t<ESC>[1;s
    <ESC>[1;3508;2480 z<ESC>[3358t
    %WPS%

See Digital ANSI compliant Printing Protocol for further documentation on 
the DECVPFS sequence in order to make the sequence fit to other paper formats

    ---
    If you have problems with tray selection, then take a look at the tray
    numbers as they appear in DECprint Supervisor release notes:
    
                        DEClaser 3250:
                           0   manual feed / multi-media feeder
                           1*  upper input tray
                           2   lower input tray
                           3   high capacity feeder (A/A4 only)
    
                        DEClaser 2150 or 2250:
                           0   manual feed
                           1*  lower input tray
                           2   upper input tray (duplex only)
                           3   power envelope feeder (if installed)
    
    This means that LN08R should have <CSI>2!v where LN05R and LN06R should
    have <CSI>1!v and visa versa. 
    This should also be changed in the .PRA file.
    
    Elin