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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3833.0. "FCS gets %OAFC-E-INVAUTHENT with DECnet/OSI (wave 3)" by ZUR01::KURTH (Peter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (Switzerland)) Mon Jan 31 1994 12:54

	Hello

	VMS V5.5-2, ALL-IN-1 V3.0-1, DECnet/OSI V5.6B (Wave 3).

	After upgrading to DECnet/OSI, the File Cabinet Server does not
	work anymore. The process node$SRV73 is there, but Status is
	"Stopped" in MGT MFC MS. With MGT MFC MS, you get the error message

		%OAFC-E-INVAUTHENT, Invalid authentication information
		received by the File Cabinet Server 

	I work always from the ALL-IN-1 manager's account; he has OAFC$SYSMAN
	and NET$MANAGE identifiers granted.

	The FCS startup creates the required object, which looks like:
	NCL>show sess cont appl 73 all
	Node 0 Session Control Application 73
	at 1994-01-31-12:52:13.199+01:00I0.267

	Identifiers
	    Name                              = 73

	Status
	    Process Identifiers               =
	       {
	       }

	Characteristics
	    Client                            = <Default value>
	    Addresses                         =
	       {
	          number = 73
	       }
	    Outgoing Proxy                    = True
	    Incoming Proxy                    = True
	    Outgoing Alias                    = True
	    Incoming Alias                    = True
	    Node Synonym                      = False
	    Image Name                        = <Default value>
	    User Name                         = <Default value>
	    Incoming OSI TSEL                 = <Default value>

	Counters
	    Creation Time                     = 1994-01-31-11:47:50.114+01:00I0.156


	When Outgoing Alias True, the trace shows (I tried to copy a
	document to another drawer): 

SESSION ID:  6978848
OAFC FUNCTION: OafcOpenCabinetW
TRACE EVENT: Task Start
EVENT TIME: 31-JAN-1994 13:24:23.45

SESSION ID:  6978848
OAFC FUNCTION: OafcOpenCabinetW
TRACE EVENT: Connection Rcv'd
EVENT TIME: 31-JAN-1994 13:24:23.52
FILE CABINET NAME: GRDBA3.MANAGER		<- node
STRING1 IS: GRDBE1				<- cluster alias
STRING2 IS: ALLIN1

SESSION ID:  6978848
OAFC FUNCTION: OafcOpenCabinetW
TRACE EVENT: Connection Rejected
EVENT TIME: 31-JAN-1994 13:24:23.82
FILE CABINET NAME: GRDBA3.MANAGER
STRING1 IS: ALLIN1

SESSION ID:  6978848
OAFC FUNCTION: OafcOpenCabinetW
TRACE EVENT: Task Complete
EVENT TIME: 31-JAN-1994 13:24:23.90
FILE CABINET NAME: GRDBA3.MANAGER
STATUS: 55804130
STRING1 IS: ALLIN1

SESSION ID:  6978848
TRACE EVENT: Disconnect Done
EVENT TIME: 31-JAN-1994 13:24:24.02
FILE CABINET NAME: GRDBA3.MANAGER


	Note 2931 says to set Outgoing Alias to false, which I did; the error
	message %OAFC-E-INVAUTHENT disappears and the server is
	"Running/Enabled" (after Exit and re-enter ALL-IN-1). The user can
	work with all drawer operations.


	Questions:
	a) What is the correct way to get FCS working with DECnet/OSI?
	b) How can I change the FCS startup to set values other than the
	   defaults (for Alias Outgoing=false)?

	Thanks and regards, Peter
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3833.1Not that I understand this Wave stuffAIMTEC::WICKS_AAtlanta&#039;s Most (In)famous WelshmanMon Jan 31 1994 15:467
    Peter,
    
    Didn't something similar get discussed in 3767?
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
3833.2ZUR01::KURTHPeter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (Switzerland)Wed Feb 02 1994 10:2313
	Hello

	No, it isn't the same as note 3767. It seems, that the FCS cannot
	understand the cluster alias and displays %OAFC-E-INVAUTHENT. 

	Other sites have also DECnet/OSI installed, the object 73 is set
	with "Outgoing Alias = True" and FCS works with no problems. 

	Something must be set wrong here. Any ideas?

	Currently, I workaround this problem by setting the "Outgoing Alias" to
	False during execution of A1V30_SITE_START.COM.

3833.3ZUR01::KURTHPeter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (Switzerland)Wed Feb 02 1994 14:4433
	Hi

	Some more information:

	When doing NCL>SHOW SESS CONT PORT * ALL WITH Remote End User 
	Address = number = 73, the 'links' between the user and the FCS looks
	like this:

	With Outgoing Alias=False
	    Client                            = <Default value>
	    Local End User Address            = UIC = [0,0]ALLIN1
	    Transport Port                    = OSI Transport Port OSI$PORT_007E
	    Direction                         = Outgoing
	    Remote End User Address           = number = 73
	    Node Name Sent                    = EMD:.GRD.BERN.GRDBA2
 
	With Outgoing Alias=True
	    Client                            = <Default value>
	    Local End User Address            = UIC = [0,0]ALLIN1
	    Transport Port                    = OSI Transport Port OSI$PORT_01E1
	    Direction                         = Outgoing
	    Remote End User Address           = number = 73
	    Node Name Sent                    = EMD:.grd.bern.grdbe1

	As seen, the 'Node Name Sent' is different (GRDBA2 is the node, grdbe1
	is the alias).

	Is the FCS not able to handle the small letters from the cluster alias
	grdbe1? Does the validation happens case sensitive?

	Any hint?

	Thanks and regards ,Peter
3833.4Could be the lowecase alias...IOSG::STANDAGEWed Feb 02 1994 14:5912
    
    Peter,
    
    I'm not sure how the FCS reacts to lowercase cluster alias's, but I know
    from personal experience that other products do not stand up well to
    this (Message router I believe). Redefine the alias to be in uppercase,
    stop/start the servers and see what happens...
    
    
    Kevin.
    
    
3833.5ZUR01::KURTHPeter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (Switzerland)Wed Feb 02 1994 15:3724
	Hi 

	Re -1: Redefining the alias is not so easy. We would have to change the
	DNS name space; and this may be difficult in a large network (as my
	DECnet/OSI colleague said). And case sensitivity seems not to be the
	cause, see below.

	More info:

	On good old Phase IV, do the following:
	NCP> set obj obj_73 alias outgoing enable
	go into ALL-IN-1 and do MGT MFC MS and you get "%OAFC-E-INVAUTHENT,
	Invalid authentication information received by the File Cabinet Server".

	Huhh, what is this?

	So, this is a problem with the cluster alias in general, not with
	Phase V. Phase V is worse, because the object is set Outgoing Alias=True
	per default. But, it seems, that other sites have no problem with FCS
	and DECnet/OSI.

	More clues?

	Regards, Peter
3833.6CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOWed Feb 02 1994 21:1910
    re: .0
    
    Is FCS knowledgable re Phase V nodenames?
    
    Perchance this
	    Node Synonym                      = False
    should be this?
	    Node Synonym                      = True
    
    Dave
3833.7Not a phase V problem, a cluster alias problemZUR01::KURTHPeter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (Switzerland)Thu Feb 03 1994 14:2410
    Hi Dave
    
    I played with Node Synonym. Setting it to False or True does not
    make any difference.
    
    The question remains: Why can FCS not work with cluster alias outgoing
    enabled (it can be DECnet Phase IV or V)? Can somebody have a look at 
    a DECnet Phase V/ALL-IN-1 system, what are the settings?
    
    Regards, Peter 
3833.8Fixed in V3.1 ...ZUR01::KURTHPeter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (Switzerland)Tue Jul 12 1994 16:176
	Final status:

	This is fixed in ALL-IN-1 V3.1 (ICO#1950). For V3.0, use the workaround
	from note 3767.9.

	Regards, Peter