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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3776.0. "*WISH* better scheduling of housekeeping procedures" by GIDDAY::SETHI (Oh what a feeling .....) Tue Jan 18 1994 22:47

    Hi All,
    
    It's been a long time since I last made a wish so I just thought that I
    would do so today :-).

    I would like to suggest an improvement in the housekeeping schedule
    procedure.  Currently we have the Date, Time and Repeat cycle (in days)
    fields.  These are fine but are a bit limiting especially the Repeat
    cycle (in days) field.

    Some customers want to run housekeeping procedures say the first
    Saturday of each month for the next year or so.  Is it possible to
    have in a PFR a means to schedule housekeeping procedures in such a
    manner ?  Trying to use the Repeat cycle (in days) does not guarantee
    that the HK will be scheduled as desired.

    The time management sub-system has code that allows you to print events
    for a day for the next year or so.  The code could be pinched from
    there to allow for better scheduling of housekeeping procedures.


    Regards,

    Sunil
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3776.1wish notedIOSG::TYLDESLEYWed Jan 19 1994 13:1212
    Hi Sunil.
    Your wish is my ....
    
    I just wanted to say that a rewrite of the scheduling mechanism for
    hskpg has been on the initial 'requirements' for the past two releases, 
    but it has always been dropped in favour of more pressing things. 
    It may well do the same this time.
    
    When FT training is over, Eileen will probably put it on her 'list'!
    Cheers
    DaveT
    
3776.2once every 5 days for the next 20 daysAIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_DWhy would CSC specialists need training?Wed Jan 19 1994 13:336
        Hi Sunil,
        
        I sure you don't want the code pinched from the TM subsystem!  8-(
        The SRE portion of TM makes more than a few counting errors.
        
        Dave Zaniewski
3776.3GIDDAY::SETHIOh what a feeling .....Wed Jan 19 1994 22:2816
        Hi Dave and Dave,

    I had forgotten to put this request on the Wish list and only
    remembered it yesterday, because of some customer related problem that
    was being discussed.

    Also at the 4 ALL-IN-1 AS sites I had worked they all said that the
    scheduling was restrictive.  I remember one of the System Managers for
    a Unix system showing me how well Unix scheduled batch jobs.

    I feel it would be a good move to change the scheduling, I wonder if
    others in the conference could add weight to this wish !!!

    Thanks,

    Sunil
3776.4An offering from DigitalGIDDAY::SETHIOh what a feeling .....Thu Jan 20 1994 01:2362
    Hi All,
    
    Further information that has come to light and I am sure it will be of
    interest to all concerned.  It appears their is a product called ALL-IN-1 
    Systidy R 2.0 from DSL in the Sales Update dated the 29th November
    1993, vol. 25, that just meets the requirements.  Here is what the book
    says.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
    
    ALL-IN-1 Systidy R 2.0 from DSL
    
    Contact: Sales Support Hotline, 1-800-832-6277
    
    Customer problem
    
    Customers have limited ALL-IN-1 system management functionality for
    developing a tailored and flexible maintence schedule to meet the needs
    of their ALL-IN-1 environment.
    
    Digital Solution
    
    ALL-IN-1 Systidy provides enhanced and extended ALL-IN-1 system
    management functionality by allowing configuration, scheduling,
    execution and review of ALL-IN-1 maintence tasks from within the
    ALL-IN-1 IOS System Manager's menu environment. In addition to the
    standard maintence procedures, Systidy provides several File Cabinet
    level routines not available in the base product.
    
    Systidy is driven from a Maintence Database.  This database details
    what activities are to be performed when and for whom. This machanism
    allows for a robust and flexible maintence schedule that can be quickly
    and easily tailored to meet the specific needs of any particular
    ALL-IN-1 environment. Systidy comes with a standard complement of 24
    maintence routines.  The product also allows for the creation of new
    routines that may then be scheduled and executed with the others.  All
    routines may be scheduled individually to particular nodes in a
    VAXcluster system to make optimal use of available computing resourses. 
    This provides complete flexibility and capacity for customization and
    tailoring by local System Management.
    
    Systidy will send mail messages to a user-defined distribution list
    upon the completion of each task indicating success or failure of the
    task along with other task-specific information.  If Data Center
    Monitor (DCM) is available, Systidy will report any fatal errors
    encountered to this automation tool.
    
    Systidy also provides menu options for the management of user document
    quotas and user UAF process quotas. And for the user's convenience,
    Systidy provides the DCL command A1CHECKMAIL which will display the
    number of unread messages for the user issuing the command.
    
    Pricing/ordering information
    
    Model No.		Description
    
    Q2-GNCA9-99		ALL-IN-1 Systidy license
    Q2-GNCAA-H5		ALL-IN-1 Systidy TK50
    Q2-GNCAA-HM		ALL-IN-1 Systidy 16MT9
    Q2-GNCAA-GZ		ALL-IN-1 Systidy DOC ONLY
3776.5ODIXIE::WOLFEJohn Wolfe - (404)-924-6463Thu Jan 20 1994 16:2511
	Hi

	Sorry but the SYSTIDY scheduling will not cater to .0 - you cannot
	schedule jobs to run on say the first Saturday of the month.  You
	can schedule any of the maintenance jobs to run on given days of the 
	week or on a specified calendar date of the month.

	HTH

	John 
3776.6VMS system service please?IOSG::BILSBOROUGHSWBFSFri Jan 21 1994 08:325
    
    Maybe VMS should allow for real date calculations etc and then we could
    all do this kind of stuff.
    
    Mike
3776.7GIDDAY::SETHIOh what a feeling .....Sat Jan 22 1994 11:0113
    Hi Mike,
    
    >Maybe VMS should allow for real date calculations etc and then we
    >could all do this kind of stuff.
    
    I wrote something to do real date calculations sometime back (about 6
    years ago).  It can be done and I used DCL and lexical functions it was
    not too difficult and it worked.  The company that I worked for than wanted
    it written in an easy to understand "language" for maintainability.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
3776.8DECScheduler ??SUBURB::BROWNSTONEOut to lunchFri Feb 04 1994 15:399
    All,
    
    How about utilising DECscheduler.
    
    I know that this'd mean the customer shelling out for another product 
    (assuming that thsy don't already possess it). But I believe that
    offers the scheduling flexability that's required.
    
    Chris