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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3695.0. "smtp addresses" by UTRTSC::SMEETS (Look at the ALL-IN-1 side of life) Wed Dec 22 1993 12:45

Hi

ALL-IN-1 V3.0-1

Does someone known how to handle smtp addresses with ALL-IN-1.

VMSmail syntax: smtp%"smeets.jaguar.uto.dec.com"

I've tried already _smtp%"smeets.jaguar.uto.dec.com" and 
smtp%"[email protected]" @MRGATE, but no luck 'till now.


Thanks,

Martin
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3695.1What sort of error?AIMTEC::WICKS_AWC94 Dream died when Bodin missedWed Dec 22 1993 16:588
    Martin,
    
    Could you explain why or how _SMTP%"address" doesn't work that's the
    way I think its supposed to be.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks 
3695.2Recipient has invalid alternate MTS addressUTRTSC::SMEETSLook at the ALL-IN-1 side of lifeThu Dec 23 1993 07:0532
Hello Andrew,

When I address like _smtp%"[email protected]" I receive the following
Delivery Failure Report

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     22-Dec-1993 23:43 CET
                                        From:     Mail Postmaster @UTO
                                                  POSTMASTER
                                        Dept:     HL EIS IS END USER SERVICES
                                        Tel No:   

TO:  Martin Smeets @UTO                   ( SMEETS.MARTIN )


Subject: Delivery Failure Report

    ALL-IN-1 was unable to deliver your message dated 22-Dec-1993 23:43 to

      _smtp%[email protected]

          - Recipient has invalid alternate MTS address;

    on node HLIS32

    The subject of the message was :
      I: Message from UTROP1 to _smtp

Merry Xmas,

Martin
3695.3customer uses UCXUTRTSC::SMEETSLook at the ALL-IN-1 side of lifeThu Dec 23 1993 11:189
Hi Andrew,

I just spoke to the customer who originally reported this problem.

Customer is also using UCX, when he sends the message from VMS mail, after some
time he sees an entry in the UCX queue. When he sends the message from ALL-IN-1
he never sees an entry in the UCX queue, he only get non-delivery messages.

Martin
3695.4Trying to picture this in my mindAIMTEC::WICKS_AWC94 Dream died when Bodin missedThu Dec 23 1993 16:047
    Martin,
    
    dumb question - where does node HLIS32 fit in the picture?
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
3695.5MUPA has should fix it all. But does not.UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTHolland goes USAFri Dec 24 1993 10:0151
    Hello there,
    
    MUPA has should fix it all.
    VMSmail delivery code is part of the ALL-IN-1 image,  SPECIAL.COM is 
    not used by default anymore.
    
    So all VMS related where-are-my-quotes-o-well-if-you-want-1-quote-add-3
    which seems to be Martin's and customers problem should be history.
    
    BUT. When the address is something like _SMTP%"[email protected]"
    
    ALL-IN-1 generates a non-delivery ...
    
=============================================================================== 

                                        Datum:    24-dec-1993 10:49 CET
                                        Van:      Mail Postmaster
                                                  POSTMASTER
                                        Afd.:     Software Support Organization
                                        Tel.:

AAN:  Jan Schollaert                       ( SCHOLLAERT )


Onderwerp: Rapport van mislukte verzending      

    Bericht d.d. 24-dec-1993 10:49 kon niet worden verzonden aan

      _SMTP%"[email protected]"

          - Ontvanger heeft ongeldig alternatief MTS-adres;

    op node UTRACK

    Het onderwerp van het bericht was :
      _schollaert en _SMTP%"[email protected]"

=============================================================================== 
    

    Happy new year,
    
    Jan
    
    By the way.

    Watch out for SPECIAL.CMU hanging
    around which strips of your quotes when you ENTER the address.
    The one that comes with DECfax has this problem.
    

3695.6reply .4UTRTSC::SMEETSLook at the ALL-IN-1 side of lifeMon Dec 27 1993 07:5510
    Andrew,

re.4

>>  dumb question - where does node HLIS32 fit in the picture?
   
    HLIS32 is a member of our production cluster. It's also the node on which
    the message was originally was created.

    Martin 
3695.7QUOTES, more QUOTESUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTHolland goes USAMon Dec 27 1993 11:3425
    Hi,
    
    Martin and I did some additional testing (no snow, no X-mas holidays).
    
    When VMSmail is invoked in a single command line,
    there must be triple quotes around the U*X address...
    
    $mail nl: SMTP%"""[email protected]"""
    
    This works fine with MUPA (oa$special_means_vmsmail 1)....

    To: _SMTP%"""[email protected]"""
    
    Adding some quotes in the pre-MUPA version of SPECIAL.COM also
    does the trick.
    
$       QUOTES = """""""
$       IF 'F$LOCATE("SMTP",TO) .NE. 'F$LENGTH(TO) THEN -
        TO = F$EXTRACT(0,5,TO) + QUOTES + F$EXTRACT(5,200,TO) + QUOTES
$       MAIL/SUBJ="''SUBJ'" 'FILE' 'TO'

    Regards,

    Jan
    
3695.8need some clarifyingAIMTEC::WICKS_AWC94 Dream died when Bodin missedMon Dec 27 1993 16:5614
    Jan/Martin.
    
    OK so triple quotes works with the MUP but didn't single quotes used
    to work.?
    
    I must admit you also lost me with the reply about the MUP replacing
    SPECIAL.COM - I spotted in the CART report that VMSmail and VAXmail
    have gone but I thought SPECIAL was still alive.
    
    What christmas holidays?
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
3695.9smtp needs triple quotesUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTHolland goes USATue Dec 28 1993 07:3633
    Andrew,
    
>    OK so triple quotes works with the MUP but didn't single quotes used
>    to work.?
    
    Nop. Without the MUP, all quotes from #MAILADDR are gone 
    after LOOP1 sets the TO symbol in SPECIAL.COM. 
    
    VMSmail invoked in one line needs triple quotes for smtp% like
    
    $MAIL/SUBJ=sub nl: smtp%"""[email protected]"""
    
    From the MAIL prompt, single quotes can do.
    
    MAIL> send
    To:     smtp%"[email protected]"
    Subj:   huh ?
    
    MUPA checks for oa$special_means_vmsmail. If set, the VMSmail
    delivery is performed by the ALL-IN-1 image. 
    
    Removing "$       define/job/nolog oa$special_means_vmsmail 1"
    from SPECIAL.COM results in pre-MUPA-like delivery.
    
    So I would say MUPA solves the quotes problem.
    
    No christmas holidays ! Saving days for WC 94 Andrew ?
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan