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| 3543.1 | | IOSG::MAURICE | Differently hirsute | Wed Nov 17 1993 09:01 | 23 |
| Hi,
> I have tried out by sending a mail to an user, the user's DOCDB.DAT gets
> updated immediately.
Not true! The recipient's record in the PENDING.DAT file will be
updated to contain the filename of the new message, and the unread
count updated.
The key to the record in the PENDING file is "MAIL username" where
username is the ALL-IN-1 account name of the recipient. The format of
PENDING record is very similar to that of DAF records, i.e. unusual! If
the record gets full, then continuation records are created.
There are further details in the book "ALL-IN-1 A Technical Odyssey" by
Tony Redmond.
Do you have ALL-IN-1 users sharing VMS accounts? If so they would get
broadcasts for each other's mail.
Cheers
Stuart
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| 3543.2 | Continuation | ZPOVC::JONAHLIM | March on a healthy life...!!! | Thu Nov 18 1993 09:21 | 23 |
| Hi Stuart,
This is what I have been understood of the file PENDING.DAT. But when I take a
look at the file itself, in fact my own record, I could only find the mail
count but do not have filename of the new message yet I have new messages in my
inbox. I did a search of my DOCDB.DAT, I could find those files correspond to
the inbox mails in side. Why?
When you said a record gets full, a continuation record is created. Then, does
it created with the mail count too?
Below is an extract of the file PENDING.DAT.
Regards,
Jonah :-)
FETCHER QUEUE 0
MAIL JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE 0
MAIL JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE ( JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDE Y : 28 �
L � � T � � \ � � " d � � * l � � 2
MAIL JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE ( JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDE ! �� 26 Z � @ OA$SHARB95:ZUYFPTDWD.WPL @ OA$SHARA69:ZUYHL92O2.WPL @ OA$SHARA57:ZUYHNR
MAIL JONAH LIM ' # 29
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| 3543.3 | The pending file | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Thu Nov 18 1993 10:18 | 19 |
| What happens is:
The mail is 'delivered' by either the Fetcher (remote mail) or sender (local
mail) to the Pending file. The count is incremented, and the filename of the
message is added to the list in the Pending record.
The user then does II - this creates an INBOX record in the DOCDB, and the
filename is deleted from the Pending file, as the user now has the pointer in
the FileCab.
The user then reads/prints the new message. The Unread count in Pending is
decremented. So, you see the count refers to the sum of the entries in the
Pending record and the unread messages in the Filecab. As all of your Unread
mail is in your Inbox, the record is empty and the count is greater than 0.
However, I'm not sure how this helps you with your problem! Did you read the
rest of Stuart's note?
grahame
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| 3543.6 | Further queries | IOSG::MAURICE | Differently hirsute | Fri Nov 19 1993 08:53 | 27 |
| Hi,
One thing that is strange is the key to your records. The key to the
PENDING file record is the first 65 characters.
Here's what it looks like: your user is running in an account called
"JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE", but the pending file record being updated is
for "JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE ( JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDE".
Can you check whether there is a record in the PROFILE with a key
beginning "JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE ( JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDE".
Also what is the mail destination (MAIDES) field value in the profile
record of "JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE".
Are there are spurious entries for this user in the NETWORK file (form
NETWORK)?
I tested by creating an account with the name "JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE"
on our latest system and it all worked OK. But your system is very old,
and so there may have been some problem with a space or or "-" in the
user name that got fixed in the interim - but I couldn't find such a
fix.
Cheers
Stuart
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| 3543.7 | Check for invalid Addressee Format | IOSG::COTTINGHAM | | Fri Nov 19 1993 16:17 | 10 |
| As Stuart suggested the key to this problem probably is the extra
characters following the User Name in the Profile key. In V2.4 and
V3.0 Mail Sent to valid Usernames followed by spaces and extra characters
following position 30 cause Mail delivery notification. However the
Pending record is not accessable from the Users account as the key is
incorrect. Fixed in a PFR. We have had several problem reports on this.
Regards
Alan
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| 3543.4 | Further questions | ZPOVC::JONAHLIM | March on a healthy life...!!! | Mon Nov 22 1993 04:19 | 32 |
| Hi Grahme,
You are right. I have actually do a trace how mails are being created into
DOCB.DAT. Therefore, I should expect the PENDING.DAT should be containing a
user record and the mail count of the unread mails as what it shows below.
MAIL JONAH LIM ' # 29
Now, my question is what about those users who have mulitple records in
PENDING.DAT. How am I able to get those continuation records which mentioned by
Stuart. Below is an example.
MAIL JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE 0
MAIL JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE ( JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDE Y : 28 �
L � � T � � \ � � " d � � * l � � 2
MAIL JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDERE ( JEAN-PIERRE DERUDDE ! �� 26 Z � @ OA$SHARB95:ZUYFPTDWD.WPL @ OA$SHARA69:ZUYHL92O2.WPL @ OA$SHARA57:ZUYHNR
Looking at the first record, the mail count is zero although the rest of them
does not show that. When this user enters into ALL-IN-1 and II, the form show
nothing in II menu. Moreover, the user in fact was notified by the system
that a new mail has been sent to him. The system has put the notified mail into
the continuous records. Why?
NB: Our setup here is one to one basis. Meaning, one VMS account with one
ALL-IN-1 account. No sharing of ALL-IN-1 account.
Your help is much appreciated.
Regards,
Jonah :-)
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