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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3500.0. "auto-update users FC when access to drawer is granted?" by MEOC02::BEESTONL (Liz Beeston) Sat Nov 06 1993 13:18

   I have a customer who wants to be able to customize ALL-IN-1 to do the
   following - 

   When the access list to an IOS shared drawer is edited, if a new user is
   added to the list, this drawer should be automatically added to the new
   sharers file cabinet.

   It may be acceptable for the automatic ADR to the new users FC to be
   delayed till after some batch update process had run.

   The main reason that this customization is required is that for users 
   of the TeamLinks clients there is currently no way of doing a TeamLinks 
   Windows based IAD so that a user can easily select the newly accessible 
   drawer. The other reason is that this customer needs to make life 
   as easy as possible for their users.

   Does anyone have any comments on the feasability of this type of
   customization? I have dome some preliminary investigations and not come
   up with any solutions.

   They are fairly keen to have this type of functionality.

   I would appreciate any comments/pointers..  Thanks..Liz


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3500.1First thoughtsIOSG::MAURICEDifferently hirsuteMon Nov 08 1993 08:5736
    Hi,
    
    PLAN A
    
    The main obstacle that I can see is one of privileges. If an
    unprivileged user grants access to another user, then the granting user
    will probably not have READ access to the other user's FILECAB.DAT,
    let alone the WRITE access you would need. 
    
    So I think you could create a data file that has a list of
    entries containing drawer name and user name pairs. Then a privileged
    user would be able to run a program that for each entry writes a new
    record to the FILECAB.DAT of the appropriate user. 
    
    Another problem to solve is what the (unique) NAME field is to be in
    FILECAB.DAT. If two users have a drawer called TEST, then you'll have
    to come with a scheme where the second one is called something like
    TEST1.
    
    Lastly you you will need to consider what happens if a user shares with
    a group, or the special *LOCAL and *WORLD groups.
    HTH
    
    PLAN B
    
    A different approach might to make use of mail functions. You can
    customise your system to add another mail function. You could compose a
    mail message that would be sent to the sharees, and when they receive
    and read it they will be put in something like the ADR form. However I
    don't think think this approach would work for TeamLinks users. A
    similar approach useing TeamRoute might, but I don't suppose you've got
    TeamRoute installed on the ALL-IN-1 system.
    
    HTH
    
    Stuart
3500.2Possible future FCS funtionalityCHRLIE::HUSTONMon Nov 08 1993 14:5724
    
    As far as the auto ADR I would say, you would come up with more
    problems than you would solve, Stuart mentions alot of them. I do like
    the mail suggestion, just send mail to all IOS users on the system 
    and tell them a new drawer has been made available, Trying to 
    pick the users given access ot would be hard. You would have to
    consider groups, world access, local access etc. Next to imposisble
    to do so. Also what if a user doesn't want the drawer in his FC?
    
    Another point to consider is if you have hte DSO installed, you have
    no chance of getting it to work. THe remote users filecab.dat file
    will be on the remote system, and you have absolutely no way of 
    effectively mapping a proxy backwards, not to mention if the proxy 
    was into OAFC$DEFAULT (world access).
    
    If you have to do it do the mail routine way.
    
    You could also push for an IAD available from the PC.  The historical
    reasons for it not being there are almost nil given the current state
    of DNS.  It would never have a chance at making it into V2 of TeamLinks
    but I think it should be done.
    
    --Bob
    
3500.3Tony has an off-the-shelf customisationIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Tue Nov 09 1993 20:376
    
    	Tony Redmond @DBO has written a customisation that works for
    	most simple cases.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
3500.4SIOG::T_REDMONDThe James Joyce of Office products?Tue Nov 16 1993 14:572
    And it's posted somewhere in this conference. Look for topics about
    DECUS...