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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

3479.0. "NO SUCH FORM" by DELNI::ROCHA (La la) Mon Nov 01 1993 20:26

Hello,

	I'm having a problem with printing to any LN03 printers.
	We upgraded from V2.4 to V3.0, and since then, when you 
	print to an LN03 printer, you get the error No Such Form, 
	and then the job gets retained on error.

	In the Manage Printer Types screen in ALL-IN-1, under Print
	Form Value, it's listed as OA$HLS_80.  If I change that to 
	be OA$HLS_132 it works sometimes, but just not the OA$HLS_80
	form.  I've also tried printing from VMS by doing 
	PRINT/QUE=PRINTER_LN03/FORM=OA$HLS_80, and I still get
	the No Such Form error.  I've also tried defining a new
	form with basically the same information, and that doesn't
	work either.

	Any ideas on what the problem is, would be greatly appreciated. 8^)

	Thank you
	Tracy

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
3479.1	Check form list and logical	IOSG::NEWLAND	Richard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2	`Mon Nov 01 1993 23:27`	8
	If you do a $ SHOW QUEUE/FORM is an OA$HLS_80 form listed? Also, do you have a logical name called OA$HLS_80, because Print Form names are subject to logical name translation, and the equivalence name will be used as the name of the Print Form. Richard
3479.2	Tried that...	DELNI::ROCHA	La la	`Tue Nov 02 1993 13:34`	7
	Hello, Yes, if I do a show que/form, it's defined on all nodes of the cluster. There is a logical set up for the LN03 printer itself. Thank you for your reply. Tracy
3479.3	Does this fail?	IOSG::NEWLAND	Richard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2	`Tue Nov 02 1993 14:27`	20
	If you do the following: $ SHOW QUEUE/FORM OA$HLS_80 and the form is listed $ PRINT/FORM=OA$HLS_80 filespec and get %PRINT-F-CREJOB, error creating job -JBC-E-NOSUCHFORM, no such form then the problem is with the Queue Manager and not ALL-IN-1. What is you definition of the OA$HLS_80 Print form? Richard
3479.4	Definition	DELNI::ROCHA	La la	`Tue Nov 02 1993 15:30`	10
	I tried printing using the form from VMS, and I did get the No Such Form Error...I'll ask the system manager regarding the queue manager (thank you for the info) The definition of the OA$HLS_80 is Form name Number Description --------- ------ ----------- OA$HLS_80 (stock=DEFAULT) 1112 ALL-IN-1 form for narrow printers /LENGTH=66 /MARGIN=(BOTTOM=6) /STOCK=DEFAULT /WIDTH=80
3479.5	Your form looks correct	IOSG::NEWLAND	Richard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2	`Tue Nov 02 1993 15:46`	8
	Your OA$HLS_80 print form is correct. When I've seen problems like this before it was due to having a logical name the same as the form name, which was translated by VMS into a form name which did not exist. I can't think of any other reason for this problem. Richard
3479.6	Define on Print Concerntrator	DELNI::ROCHA	La la	`Tue Nov 02 1993 15:57`	9
	Hello... I spoke with the system manager, and the problem was that the form wasn't defined on the Print Concerntrators. He defined them there, and now it works fine. Thank you very much, Richard for all of your help. Tracy