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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3439.0. "Performance concern since V3.0 upgrade" by CTHP12::M_MORIN () Fri Oct 22 1993 22:49

A customer has indicated that ever since their V2.3-V3.0 upgrade, ALL-IN-1 
response time has greatly degraded.

After doing some performance monitoring with DECps, they have found that the 
System Fault Rate appears to be excessively high, which it wasn't before 
while at V2.3.  Since V3.0 during monitoring, It peaked at 24.  The 
recommended value for this is anything below 1.  They have also noticed that 
the requirement for the RESHASHTBL has doubled.  They had to increase it from 
4096 to 10000.

They are wondering if the above behaviour is in line with expections when 
upgrading to V3.0.

We are not expected to do any tuning on their system but this customer will 
absolutely not let go until I can that say someone has either confirmed or 
denied this.  They are at the point now that they feel that something went 
wrong in the install (something is not linked in right) even though nothing 
did.

VAX 4000/500
100+ active users in ALL-IN-1, and sub-processed out to other applications.
192 Meg of memory
System scattered accross 5 disks.

/Mario

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3439.1This has not been the experience of my customersGIDDAY::SETHIHolland 2-England 0,Andrew wasn't thereTue Oct 26 1993 03:3818
    Hi Mario,
    
    It appears that they have to go through a tuning exercise as this has
    not been our customers experience here in Australia.  In general people
    have been quite pleased even though ALL-IN-1 requires additional
    resources.
    
    It's all very well using DECps but people should not just depend on it. 
    The customer has other applications running therefore a number of
    factors may come into play.
    
    You are not going to get absolute answers so please don't take my reply
    to be The absolute answer, even though I am attempting to be an
    explainator :-).
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
3439.2possible explanationsIOSG::DAVISMark DavisTue Oct 26 1993 08:1231
    
    
       Some performance degradation is to be expected when moving from V2.4 to 
       V3.0.
    
       You would expect to see on average 2% more CPU to be used and 8% more 
       memory. If a lot of printing takes place using the WPS-PLUS formatter 
       then the degradation will be worse.
    
       You would not expect response time to be greatly degraded. Possible 
       explanations are :-
    
       You are already at the limit of CPU or memory so that the extra usage 
       pushes you over the edge.
    
       User behaviour has changed because of the extra capabilities of V3.0 so 
       that users are doing more work (?).
    
       Something changed during the upgrade - for example global buffers on 
       PENDING.DAT and the  SDAFs.
    
       As for the increase in RESHASHTBL, although I haven't observed this, 
       the explanation could be that V3.0 opens more files and therefore 
       requires more locks. - it is usually recommended that RESHASHTBL is a 
       power of 2.
    
       Maybe the increase in the system fault rate reflects a general increase 
       in page faulting.
    
       			Mark