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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3368.0. "Cannot create new doc because no RESERVE_LIST.DAT?" by MROA::BONVALLAT () Fri Oct 08 1993 01:00

I have an ALL-IN-1 user on a timesharing cluster who cannot create
any new documents.  She gets thrown back to the menu and gets a
"file not found" message.

While not an ALL-IN-1 expert by any means, I knew enough to turn
on TRACE to narrow the problem further, and I get this in the A1TRACE.LOG:

![FLOW]   Form RESERVE_LIST opening, Library: DISK$ALLIN1:[ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]OA
!               FORM.FLB;
![IO]     Error opening RESERVE_LIST
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGERROR, %RMS-E-FNF, file not found
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGERROR, -OA-E-DBEOR, Error opening RESERVE_LIST - File
!               DISK$USER9:[LKALOOSTIAN.OA]RESERVE_LIST.DAT;
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGERROR, -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
![SCRIPT] WP_SYS_EDIT Line 178: .LABEL ADD_RL

Apparently, she is missing RESERVE_LIST.DAT, but I did not think this would
be necessary for creating new documents.  I don't have that file and I
can create new docs from EM or WP just fine. 

Any comments appreciated.

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3368.1Know problemGIDDAY::SETHIHe's wound them up no end :-)Fri Oct 08 1993 01:2312
    Hi Jeff,
    
    This is a known problem the RESERVE_LIST.DAT has probably been created
    in the wrong directory it should be in OAUSER (OAUSER is the
    [.<ALL-IN-1 sub-directory name>]).
    
    The user needs this to reserve any documents, ie when using documents
    in the shared drawers.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
3368.2IOSG::CARLINDick Carlin IOSG, Reading, EnglandFri Oct 08 1993 10:377
    Sunil
    
    Could you tell me what the known problem is please? This file is
    created "on-the-fly" and I wondered what causes it to be created in the
    wrong directory.
    
    Dick
3368.3still lookingMROA::BONVALLATFri Oct 08 1993 17:096
Hmm..I didn't find RESERVE_LIST.DAT in ANY of the user's directories.
We're checking old backup tapes now, hoping to find it.

I still don't understand why she needs that file and I don't in order
to create new docs.

3368.4This one?AIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Fri Oct 08 1993 17:1611
    Re .2 (dick)
    
    I assume that the known problem Sunil refers to is the one in the
    STARS article entitled 
    *User Cannot Reserve Any Documents; 'file not found'        
    It may be known to you as THR-16019
    The problem outlined there is listed as fixed in v3.0-1
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
3368.5empty RESERVED docs appear after every failed createMROA::BONVALLATFri Oct 08 1993 20:5516
This problem gets a little more interesting....

Every time the user tries to create a document and gets the error
"file not found", a new empty document does get created!
This document cannot be edited, it cannot be deleted because
it is marked "RESERVED", and it cannot be Unreserved.
Trying to do a URV generates the error:
Error opening SCRIPT file "FC_RESERVE_LIST_CREATE"
The document has not been unreserved

Again, she has no RESERVE_LIST.DAT file.  We checked the backup
tapes from 5 weeks ago until today and there was no RESERVE_LIST.DAT
file in any of her directories.

Still looking for help.  Thanks.

3368.6Could be the dreaded rooted logicals !!!GIDDAY::SETHIHe&#039;s wound them up no end :-)Mon Oct 11 1993 01:3012
    Hi,  
    
    I have come across another problem that was very similar.  What we
    found for the hand full of users who had the problem after the upgrade
    to 3.0, was the dreaded rooted logical (also know as virtual disk).
    
    Please check the directory specification in PROFILE and ensure that
    it's not using rooted logicals.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
3368.7Full trace?IOSG::CARLINDick Carlin IOSG, Reading, EnglandMon Oct 11 1993 19:1624
    (.0 and .5)
    
    Jeffrey (is that right?)
    
    We have an optimisation that says if you are editing in a drawer that
    hasn't been shared then its not necessary to reserve the document and
    therefore we don't need a RESERVE_LIST. This particular customer must
    have shared their drawer which is why they get the problem and you
    don't. I wonder if you could trace the whole document creation and give
    me a pointer to the output. (Graham will never forgive me if I
    encourage you to post it as a reply, it'll be fairly long :-)
    
    (.6)
    
    Sunil
    
    You could very well be right. I am fixing another concealed logical
    problem at the moment and if this is another then I'll try and fix this
    one as well. Can you remember any more details from when you had a
    failure like this? Given your clue I should be able to see what's going
    wrong but the brain is still suffering from Monday inertia. Perhaps the
    trace will help.
    
    Dick
3368.8fixed?MROA::BONVALLATMon Oct 11 1993 20:2420
Well, it's not a problem with a rooted logical.  She uses a
straightforward disk logical that points to a physical drive
(like the others on the system).

I believe I may have fixed the problem by taking an empty
RESERVE_LIST.DAT from another user and putting it in her
[.OA] subdirectory.  Now she has both RESERVATIONS.DAT (which
was always there and has lots of data in it) and RESERVE_LIST.DAT 
(which is empty).  

She can now create new documents (and they don't automatically 
get created with Status of RESERVED).  Also, she can unreserve the empty
reserved documents that were created when she had the problem and delete them.
She's probably OK now, but if anyone can confirm that I didn't really screw 
up then I'd feel better.

Thanks for offering to look at the A1TRACE.LOG, Dick.  If it still makes
sense to look at it then it is open to world access at:
USCTR1::DISK$USER9:[000000]A1TRACE.LOG;1

3368.9some more information as requestedGIDDAY::SETHIHe&#039;s wound them up no end :-)Tue Oct 12 1993 00:3519
    Hi Dick,
    
    Re .7,
    
    Hopefully you have overcome your Monday morning inertia by now and the
    brain is speeding along !!!
    
    Well what we found for a few users on the system was that if a logical
    was defined with the concealed attribute the user got an error message
    of "Document file already exists", from what I can remember.
    
    As soon as we changed the directory specification to
    <disk>:[department.user.a1], the users were able to create documents. 
    This happened in the MAIN drawer on an upgraded system.  Please note
    that <disk> is defined as define/system/exec disk $1$duan:.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
3368.10V3.0-1 should fix itIOSG::CARLINDick Carlin IOSG, Reading, EnglandTue Oct 12 1993 16:2911
    OK it looks as if Jeffrey's problem is the one mentioned in .1 and .4
    by Sunil and Andrew.
    (We used to create this file in the subprocess and if an application
    changed the default directory in the subprocess then it would end up in
    the wrong place).
    
    When I get a chance I'll chase the problem you mentioned in .9 Sunil.
    
    Dick
    
    
3368.11works O.K on one node!SIOG::GODWYERThu Oct 28 1993 16:5015
    Hi,
    
    I am having the same problem with a user receiving the 'file not found'
    error. The unusual thing here is that they are using ALL-IN-1 V3.0 in a
    two node cluster. They can create mails on one node but not the other
    and there is no reserve_list.dat in the the user's account.
    
    We have just upgraded to V3.0 and as yet I have no idea why the error
    does not occur on both nodes. I have advised the user to connect to the
    node that works as a short-term workaround. 
    
    regards,
    
    Gary.
    
3368.12FORTY2::ASHMail Interchange Group, ReadingThu Oct 28 1993 17:031
Most 'only on one node' problems can be fixed by running A1V3START.COM
3368.13TXL ?UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTBergkamp strikes again...Mon Nov 01 1993 09:2613
    Hi,
    
    This problem occurs when you forget to install the TXL
    on the second node after installing patch 3.0-1.
    
    3.0 invokes FC_RESERVE_LIST_CREATE.COM to create RESERVE_LIST.DAT.
    The script that invokes FC_RESERVE_LIST_CREATE.COM is in the TXL.
    
    3.0-1 does not use FC_RESERVE_LIST_CREATE.COM (file has a size of 0 blocks).
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan