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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

3163.0. "GPC, RU and 3.0-1" by ZPOVC::CHINGYUE () Wed Aug 18 1993 09:00

    	Hi,
    
    	This is about ALL-IN-1 v3.0 patch which is supposed to have
    	fixed the following problem as stated in the release note.
    
        "The unseen count is not updated correctly after "Read New" has
    	 been used from the Index of Conferences. Also, conferences are not
         correctly updated from the option for updating selected conferences
         (XUC)."
    
    	Customer is now running ALL-IN-1 v3.0-1 but the problem is still
    	there.
    
    	Any confirmation or comments ?
    
    	ching-U
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3163.1LEMAN::UELTSCHIIsabelle necessary on a bicycle ?Wed Aug 18 1993 10:5515
	Hi,

	I have the same problem on a customer site, and I can't
	reproduce it at the office. On both sides, we are
	running version 3.0-1 with notes version 2.3 (patched and
	linked with ALL-IN-1). The difference being that the customer's
	configuration is a cluster of two members, whereas mine is a
	standalone system. This may cause the problem. I also notice
	that when you live GPC, but remain in ALL-IN-1, the counters are
	right. However if you leave ALL-IN-1, then the counters are wrong.

	I hope these remarks will help to identify the problem.

	Regards.
	Bernard U. 

3163.2How are you exiting from ALL-IN-1?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeWed Aug 18 1993 12:1912
    It may be that if you exit ALL-IN-1 without the conference getting
    closed, then the unread count isn't being updated. When you exit screen
    to leave the GPC menu, the conference is closed and the unread count is
    updated. How are you leaving ALL-IN-1?
    
    I don't think that the system being a single node or a cluster should
    make any difference.
    
    Graham
    
    PS I have corrected your spellings of ALL-IN-1 in .1, please try to
    spell it all in capitals.
3163.3EXITZPOVC::CHINGYUEWed Aug 18 1993 12:417
    > How are you leaving ALL-IN-1 ?
    
    enter "EX" on the command line.
    
    
    
    ching-U
3163.4Use TRACE to se whare it goes?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeWed Aug 18 1993 18:348
    Hmm, On the system that I'm running here (which is later than 3.0-1 of
    course :-) ) there is Named Data for an EX option on the GPC form,
    which looks like it should close the conference.
    
    Perhaps you could get the customer to turn on DEBUG or TRACE before
    they leave GPC, and see what code it goes through.
    
    Graham
3163.5EXIT but not EXIOSG::MAURICEDifferently hirsuteWed Aug 18 1993 19:069
    RE .4
    
    That reminded me that there was a bug fix in this area. The original
    had Named Data for "EXIT", whereas they should have been OA$_MO_EXIT
    and OA$_MO_EXIT2.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
3163.6Right, and that fix isn't in V3.0-1.IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeWed Aug 18 1993 20:430
3163.7LEMAN::UELTSCHIIsabelle necessary on a bicycle ?Wed Aug 18 1993 23:0726
	Hi,

	That's it, (I reproduced the symptom in my standalone system).

	If I type EXIT when in the GPC menu, then I find myself 
	in the Information Management menu. I may then exit from ALL-IN-1
	and the unseen counter is properly updated.
	If I type EX from GPC, I immediately get out of ALL-IN-1, and the 
	unseen counter is not updated.

	So I understand that one has to close the note before leaving. 
	However, my customer wants to know why you can't leave ALL-IN-1 
	straight from the GPC menu, and whether he needs to customize this 
	and the best way to do it. Or will it be done in the future release?

	Thanks
	
	Bernard U.


	NB: for Graham
	Sorry for the silly spelling mistake, never to be repeated...(I have
	already started, as you may notice above... :-) )



3163.83.0-1 not the latest ?ZPOVC::CHINGYUEThu Aug 19 1993 06:1318
    RE .4
    
    Graham,
    
    You mentioned you're running a version which is later than 3.0-1.
    Which version is that ?
    Pardon my ignorance but I thought 3.0-1 is the latest. 
    
    Back to problem.
    If I were to customize OAN$MENU1 such that EX has the following ND,
    the Unseen count gets updated.
    
    ;;EX;;
    
    XOP "~~EXIT_PROCESSING~~"\exit
    
    Thanks.
    Ching-U
3163.9we're running the PFR; Here's our code...IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeThu Aug 19 1993 14:0223
    Ching-U,
    
    I, like all the people on node IOSG:: are part of ALL-IN-1
    Engineering, and hence we are running a version of the product which
    hasn't been released yet. We normally call this version the PFR, which
    stands for Possible Future Release, but I thought you might not know
    what PFR means, since you are fairly new to this file.
    
    Anyway, in the PFR, the code on OAN$MENU1 has been changed like this:
    
    	;;OA$_MO_EXIT2;;		( EXIT )
    
    	XOP OA$_MO_EXIT
    
    	;;OA$_MO_EXIT;;			( EX )
    
    	.IF OA$NOTES_NOTEFILE_OPEN
    	   THEN
    	     XOP "~~CLOSE~~"\
    	EXIT
    
    Graham
    
3163.10which way to customize OAN$MENU1?OASS::ADAMS_SFri Oct 01 1993 20:1610
    I am a little confused... Should we have our customers customize
    OAN$MENU1 as mentioned in .8 or .9 or either one?
    
    Also, is this now on a list to be fixed in the next maintenance release
    for ALL-IN-1?  Will there be another and if so, when?
    
    Thanks...
    
    Susan Adams
    CSC/ALF
3163.11Unseen Count in GPC is not changingOASS::ADAMS_SFri Oct 01 1993 20:5628
    This customer wants to know why when she does a notes UPDATE, the
    unseen count does not get updated.  She has written a customized
    program that caused IU to do a "for loop" on the Notes DSAB to
    re-calculate the unseen count on every conference.  As their
    conferences grow, this will take more and more CPU time.
    
    She believes that the unseen count should be updated dynamically and
    that they should not have to exit ALL-IN-1 in order for the count to be
    updated.
    
    Your comments will be greatly appreciated.  This customer used to work
    for DEC and appears to be adept at ALL-IN-1 customizations.  It does
    not seem that customizations should need to be made to make the unseen
    count work properly.  Should it be dynamic?  We have ALL-IN-1 V3.0-1
    installed on a test system and the Unseen Count does not change at all
    after I read some unseen notes; even after I exit ALL-IN-1 and IC
    again, the Unseen Count has not changed.
    
    This customer mentioned that she thinks reading unseen notes out of
    sequence could be causing the problem; however, I was reading unseen
    using RU and even after updating the conference with UC and exiting
    ALL-IN-1, the Unseen count did not change.
    
    What is going on???
    
    Thanks!
    
    Susan
3163.12my slant on thisKAOT01::M_BARNEYThu Nov 04 1993 20:2819
    I have a customer who has just upgraded from 3.0 to 3.0-1.
    He is using the IC index form to check the unseen notes in his
    conferences. He goes out of IC, enters a conference, reads a few
    of the unseen notes, exits, goes back into the IC and does a 
    ALL XUC (something that was supposed to have been fixed in 3.0-1).
    He is getting inconsistant results from this. Some of the conferences
    will show the correct amount of unseen notes, and others will not.
    More often the XUC will work, but the UC to update a single conference
    will not.
    I told him he should try getting out of IC then back in, as sometimes
    this may not accurately update his unseen notes otherwise, but he
    still feels that this function is not consistant and often inaccurate.
    
    He is not trying to exit ALL-IN-1 here, he is remaining within the 
    realm of ALL-IN-1's GPC menuing. 
    
    Comments?
    
    Monica
3163.14IOSG::MAURICEDifferently hirsuteTue Nov 09 1993 10:218
    Hi,
    
    I've checked through all the GPC bug fixes made in the PFR since
    V3.0-1, and not found one for this problem. Can you reproduce it?
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
3163.15Another fixIOSG::MAURICEI left my heart in AlcatrazTue Dec 21 1993 16:4734
    Re: some earlier replies:
    
    We have now found that even with the GPC fixes mentioned earlier, that
    the following sequence causes the conference seen map not to be updated:
    
    GPC (and select a conference)
    RU  (to read come unseen notes)
    WP  (or any other subsystem)
    EX  (exit ALL-IN-1)
      
    We will probably fix this in the PFR by defining an exit handler to
    once and for all catch all the ways out of ALL-IN-1. However you may
    wish in the interim to customise form DEFAULT to replace the Named Data
    for exit (EX and EXIT) to the essence of that on the GPC menu, i.e. to:
    
    ;;OA$_MO_EXIT;;
    
    .IF OA$NOTES_NOTEFILE_OPEN
       THEN
         NOTES UPDATE $OAN_CONFERENCE\\
         OA$MSG_PURGE\\
         NOTES CLOSE\
    EXIT
    
    ;;OA$_MO_EXIT2;;
    
    XOP OA$_MO_EXIT
    
    This will not catch exiting by the BYE function or CONTROL keys, but
    will solve most of the problem.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart