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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

3133.0. "DECpage and ALL-IN-1 v3.0 ?" by COPCLU::ELIN (Elin Christensen @DMO, DTN 857-2406) Thu Aug 12 1993 12:55

    
    I am going to upgrade a system from ALL-IN-1 v2.3 to v3.0.
    This system has DECpage installed.
    
    1. 
    The customer is willing to skip DECpage and start using WPS-PLUS v4
    functionality instead. I am not sure if that is a good idea. I think
    that users would like to have both possibilies for a while, especially
    until they get used to the behavior of the new WPS-PLUS formatter.
    - Experiences and recommandations ???
    
    2.
    IF the customer has DECpage v3.1 should I then just upgrade ALL-IN-1
    and leave DECpage untouched? 
    - Or should I reinstall DECpage AFTER the ALL-IN-1 v3.0 installation?
    
    ALL-IN-1 v3.0 Installation guide page 4-7 says:
    "When VAX DECpage Version 3.1 is installed after ALL-IN-1, it is
    accessible from the WP menu within ALL-IN-1"
    
    Does "after ALL-IN-1" mean that DECpage should be reinstalled when 
    ALL-IN-1 has been upgraded? - or just that DECpage should be installed
    after ALL-IN-1 when it is installed for the first time?
    
    3.
    How do I see the version number of DECpage?
    (I want to find out if the customer has the newest version.)
    
    4.
    DECpage problems to come, which I should be aware of when upgrading
    ALL-IN-1?
    
    Elin

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
3133.1	Not supported	FINDER::HOULDINGJ	Jill Houlding - Back in Basingstoke	`Thu Aug 12 1993 13:54`	21
	Elin I should be careful about encouraging your customer to use DECPage with ALL-IN-1 V3.0 as I believe that ALL-IN-1 Engineering do NOT support the integration. We had a similar problem with a customer in the UK and found the following: DECPage does not function correctly after an upfgrade to ALL-IN-1 V3.0 The ALL-IN-1 V3.0 SPD does not list DECPAGE as a supported integrated product even thought the Installation Guide refers to it. As the SPD is the legal document to which the product must conform, Engineering's position is that DECPAGE is not supported with ALL-IN-1 V3.0. Sorry it's not better news Jill
3133.2	Experiences?	COPCLU::ELIN	Elin Christensen @DMO, DTN 857-2406	`Fri Aug 13 1993 10:10`	23
	OK Jill, I'll tell my customer that DECpage is not supported under ALL-IN-1 v3.0. But I still have the feeling that with a few limitations we can make it function as well as any other customization. WHAT in DECpage does not function correctly after an upgrade to ALL-IN-1 V3.0? I am aware that drawers cannot be selected from the DECpage menu, and that WPS-PLUS v4 functionality is not supported by DECpage. Yesterday I spoke with the person who upgraded our production system, COPCLU, from ALL-IN-1 v2.4 to v3.0. Before the upgrade he had made sure that all DECpage elements were placed in SITE areas. (If they were in Digital areas he had copied them to SITE areas.) Then he ran the ALL-IN-1 upgrade, and afterwards DECpage fundtioned as it had always done. That was a success story, but the upgrade I am going to do, is different because it is from v2.3 to v3.0. I would like to hear about any experiences from people who have done ALL-IN-1 upgrades on systems with DECpage installed. Elin
3133.3	DECPage Notes conf. (Press KP7 etc.)	KERNEL::HOULDINGJ	Jill Houlding - Back in Basingstoke	`Fri Aug 13 1993 10:44`	6
	Elin Note # 1039.2 in MLTVAX::DECPAGE Notes conference gives some details about what will and won't work which might help. Jill
3133.4	DECpage still runs	COPCLU::ELIN	Elin Christensen @DMO, DTN 857-2406	`Fri Sep 03 1993 21:02`	11
	I upgraded the ALL-IN-1 system without touching DECpage, and DECpage went on as if nothing had happened. Only help texts were missing. From OAHELP.HLB in v2.3 I extracted all modules with the same date as the DECpage files in OA$SITE directories and told the customer to insert them into the new OAHELP.HLB after having checked them one by one against a LIB/LIST of OAHELP.HLB in order to prevent that no v3.0 help modules get overwritten. Elin