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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2982.0. "Time zone problem" by DYPSS6::SMITH (TBDBITL Alumnus) Thu Jul 08 1993 15:50

    Hi.
    
    I have a customer running ALL-IN-1 on a single node in the Eastern time
    zone.  However, the users are spread throughout the U.S. and the world. 
    The problem is that the users all see one time in ALL-IN-1.  The
    customer would like one of these solutions:
    
    1) Have all users see the same time but have that time be GMT time. 
    However, they would want the system otherwise be on EST time for local
    applications, system management, etc.
    
    2) Have each user see times in his or her own time zone.
    
    Are there solutions to either of these problems?
    
    Thanks much,
    BS
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2982.1pointerAIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Thu Jul 08 1993 16:321
    note 1101?
2982.2Not sure what the problem isFORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOThu Jul 08 1993 16:358
Which times are you talking about? There's the ALL-IN-1 time, which you'll get 
by typing TIME at a menu. And then there are all the times put on mail 
messages and documents.

It's possible to set up either of the configurations you asked for, so 
something's not working.

g
2982.3DYPSS6::SMITHTBDBITL AlumnusThu Jul 08 1993 17:3017
    re: .2
    
    > Which times are you talking about? There's the ALL-IN-1 time, which you'll 
    > get by typing TIME at a menu. And then there are all the times put on 
    > mail messages and documents.
    
    The customer is interested in all times within ALL-IN-1 showing
    consistently to the user including time stamps on messages, etc.
    whether it be GMT or the users own time zone.
    
    > It's possible to set up either of the configurations you asked for, so 
    > something's not working.
    
    I'm glad to hear that its possible.  Let me know what other info you
    need.
    
    BS
2982.4FORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOFri Jul 09 1993 12:3910
Well, as Andy says, note 1101 has instructions on making sure your dates and 
times on mail messages are correct - set the time zones on all your 
systems.

And I imagine ALL-IN-1 gets its current time from VMS - so make sure your 
system time service is working; if you're using DTSS, make sure the times are 
set to be adjusted automatically when summertime starts and ends, and again 
check that the differences from GMT are specified

g
2982.5Single nodeDYPSS6::SMITHTBDBITL AlumnusFri Jul 09 1993 14:1022
    Grahame,
    
    1101 gives instructions for setting time zones when there are multiple
    nodes.  That doesn't help my situation any.
    
    Maybe I haven't been clear enough.  Let me try again.  We have one
    node, located in Dayton, Ohio (EST).  The users are connecting from all
    over the world.  We want the users to see all times (mail message
    headers, etc.) in either their own time zone or in GMT.
    
    For GMT, I can set the time zone to GMT, but in order to actually use
    GMT, my VMS system must be set to GMT time.  This can be confusing for
    general system management, etc.
    
    For the users to see times in their own time zone, there would have to
    be some way to distinguish who was in what time zone and adjust the
    times accordingly.
    
    I still don't see a solution.
    
    Thanks,
    BS
2982.6I would think you can do it.CHRLIE::HUSTONFri Jul 09 1993 14:389
    
    I believe all IOS times are stored in NBS format. I also believe
    that NBS format includes an offset from GMT. If true then this should
    be easy to do, since the local system should know its offset from
    GMT. Exactly how one would customize IOS to do this, well I don't
    know anything about that.
    
    --Bob
    
2982.7Customization for single node caseIOSG::CHINNICKgone walkaboutFri Jul 09 1993 14:447
    
    Sorry - NBS times do not reference GMT.
    
    But you could produce a customization which would add/subtract a time
    difference on a per user basis. Anyone volunteering for this? :-)
    
    Paul.
2982.8Sorry - Nothing in the base.IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeFri Jul 09 1993 16:0212
    This has been asked for before, and there's nothing in the base to
    support the single node case where people are connected from different
    time zones.
    
    It would probably be a quite extensive customisation. You'd also have
    to think hard about how you wanted it to look - Should mesage posting
    times be shown in the sender's time zone, or converted to local time,
    etc.
    
    Time Management would be an interesting challenge if you used it.
    
    Graham
2982.9mea culpaFORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOFri Jul 09 1993 16:406
Re .5,

You're absolutely right - I misunderstood the problem. Sorry. Looks as if a 
customisation is the only way.

g