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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2981.0. "upgrade 3.0 and 3.0-1?" by SCAMIN::BROWN (Strange Days Indeed....) Thu Jul 08 1993 15:27

Hi,

I have one of my very large customers upgrading to V3.0 next month (they are 
currently at 2.3).  Should they apply the 3.0-1 patch at the same time as they do
the upgrade?  Any idea how much more time this will take?  They will be under
weekend constraints and have 2 production clusters to do.

any help is always appreciated,

-jackie brown
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2981.1Not mandatory - depends on whether you sleep!AIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Thu Jul 08 1993 16:0514
    Jackie,
    
    No I wouldn't necessarily try to cram too much into one 2-day weekend.
    
    the v3.0-1 takes a couple of hours - there's a relink, lots of form
    libraries to recompile and the TXls - and it's all manual!!!
    
    You should of course go to v3.0-1 as soon as possible after the
    upgrade but I would have thought that the v2.3 upgrade would take care
    of most of the available time.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2981.2SFCP ?UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTYou name, we support it...Thu Jul 08 1993 16:4511
    Hello,
    
    Have a look at note 2356. Save time/typing.
    
    v3.0-1 should not take more than 1 hour.
    
    SFCP conversion needed ? 
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
2981.3But not for the patch?AIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Thu Jul 08 1993 16:577
    Jan,
    
    but as I said in that note the patch install doesn't support AWD
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
2981.4no sfcp, thanksSCAMIN::BROWNStrange Days Indeed....Thu Jul 08 1993 16:580
2981.5Don't install it unless you have too !!!BUSHIE::SETHIAhhhh (-: an upside down smile from OZFri Jul 09 1993 01:2614
    Hi Jackie,
    
    Since this patch is not mandatory I would not apply it unless the
    customer has specific problems.  My main reason for my suggestion is
    that a problem has been introduced with the FCS, see note 2563.
    
    The problems have been CLD'd and in a PFR they will hopefully be
    solved.  My personal advise would be not to install 3.0-1 for the time
    being.  Sorry developers of the patch this was definately not a good
    patch.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
2981.6DNS$SHAREUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTYou name, we support it...Fri Jul 09 1993 07:5210
    Andrew,
    
    No, no AWD for the patch. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
    by the way. Not correct installed DNS$SHARE is the main cause
    of losing lots of time at customer sites.
2981.7Install it - but be prepared to go backIOSG::CHINNICKgone walkaboutFri Jul 09 1993 11:0814
    
    RE: .5
    
    The problem in Note 2563 is probably present in V3.0 too.
    
    However, there may be other problems introduced by V3.0-1. In fact,
    there was discussion to the effect that CSC's might take it off their
    list of recommended patches. Nothing to this effect has happened
    though so I presume that the major obstacles have been overcome.
    
    My advice on V3.0-1 is to install it - but be aware that you may not be
    able to live with it. This is true of all patches from support.
    
    Paul.
2981.8FCS can't see INBOXCHRLIE::HUSTONFri Jul 09 1993 14:3612
    
    There IS  an introduced bug in the patch. It involves the use of
    the INBOX when using the FCS to access it (cross drawer operation,
    other peoples inbox etc). Basically the FCS cannot see the INBOX
    when running V3.0-1. I BELIEVE (not sure) that there is/was a
    ICF for this problem. 
    
    Can't speak for other problems that may/may not be in the patch, but
    that one is there.
    
    --Bob
    
2981.9ICF 9 Solves INBOX FCS problemIOSG::CHINNICKgone walkaboutFri Jul 09 1993 14:461
    
2981.10BUSHIE::SETHIAhhhh (-: an upside down smile from OZMon Jul 12 1993 01:1123
    Hi Paul,
                   
    >However, there may be other problems introduced by V3.0-1. In fact,
    >there was discussion to the effect that CSC's might take it off their
    >list of recommended patches. Nothing to this effect has happened
    >though so I presume that the major obstacles have been overcome.
    
    I am at the CSC and have not advertised this patch we only give this
    patch out if absolutely neccessary.  The fact is that we have only seen
    the problem on sites with 3.0-1 installed.  From time to time when I
    log on to a customers system I look at the OAFC$SERVER.LOG and on sites
    that don't have the patch we do not see the errors reported.
    
    Bob is right about the problem with cross-filing I think note 2516 has
    all the details of the problem and patch.
    
    I must state that going by my experience and what customers have said
    (especially the large sites), I wouldn't install it, wait for the MUP.  
    That's just my opinion no more no less.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil