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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2941.0. "v3.0 sluggish performance" by ADO75A::BAIRD (Consultant-South Australia) Wed Jun 30 1993 09:14

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Note 56.0                 V3.0 Performance is sluggish.               No replies
ADO75A::BAIRD "Consultant-South Australia"           16 lines  30-JUN-1993 03:10
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    In the Northern Territory, Australia Digital has been progressively
    upgrading all the systems that are scattered around the capital and
    remote centres to ALL-IN-1 V3.0.
    
    (Ask Steve Martin if I am exagerating about how remote some of the
    locations are!)
    
    We are noticing that the performance between 2.4 running with SFCP and
    V3.0 with the integrated SFc is actually slower.
    
    Why is this?
    
    Will it improve with ***A Future version***
    
    Allan Baird
    Digital Services, Australia

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2941.1Probably not doing the same thingsIOSG::CHINNICKgone walkaboutWed Jun 30 1993 14:4615
    Well, this is not the notes file for futures and we can't comment here!
    
    Having said that, it would help a lot to understand the problem if you
    could be a bit more specific as to what operations are slow? 
    
    It also might help to understand how the system is set up. It's quite
    possible that you are measuring the performance through the File
    Cabinet Server or even FAL access to documents in shared drawers.
    
    Finally, there are a lot more things going on in V3 of ALL-IN-1 and a
    lot more code present to do those things. It needs more memory and
    other resources so if you aren't allowing for this everything is going
    to slow down.
    
    Paul.

2941.2Good ideas in the manual to help you tune ALL-IN-1SNOFS1::SETHISunil SethiThu Jul 01 1993 01:4222
    Hi Allan,
    
    Have you tuned the FCS as per the manual ?  See pages 15-4 onwards in
    the System Managers guide or better still there is a whole chapter
    called Optimizing Performance 15-1. Followed by Chapter 19.
    
    To say ALL-IN-1 IOS is executing slower really gives us very little to
    work on.  On a number of sites we have had problems reported that
    turned out to be that the customer had not followed the guide lines in
    the manual.  If the guide lines are followed you can expect some
    improvment but don't expect ALL-IN-1 IOS to fly, you have to wait for
    the Alpha version ;-).  By the way our large customer sites have not
    really complained about performance issues such that they have become
    an important issue.  Most sites have followed the recommendations.
    
    To sum it all up my suggestion would be to read the above chapters and
    do some monitoring before and after the tuning exercise.  Shall I make
    a sweeping statement ?  Such as it needs alot more memory than before %^).
    
    That's my 2c worth I hope it helps,
    
    Sunil
2941.3Every cloud has a dollar liningIOSG::CHINNICKgone walkaboutThu Jul 01 1993 10:4115
    G'day Sunil,
    
    As you suggest: Documentation is always a good starting point.
    
    Of course, failing that...

    You could always look at it as a revenue opportunity. There is a huge
    market in services for tuning systems like ALL-IN-1 and very little
    knowledge on how to do so.

    For a small fee... [but slightly more than 2�] I might even be enticed
    back to my native Oz! ;-)

    Paul
    [mercenary at large]
2941.4TINNIE::SETHIAhhhh (-: an upside down smile from OZFri Jul 02 1993 00:5915
    Hi Paul,
    
    Do we have a conference that discusses tuning issues apart from the
    OpenVMS tuning conference, it is a good conference VMSDEV::VMSTUNING.
    However having one for ALL-IN-1 IOS would be great as there are a large
    number of sites that only have ALL-IN-1 IOS installed on their system
    or it's the main application.
    
    I must admit that tuning is not really my strong point.  Having access
    to more information would be helpful, so any pointers to more
    information would be invaluable.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil