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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2875.0. "OA$FORMATTER queue problem" by HTSC19::ALEXLUI () Thu Jun 17 1993 09:48

    Hi, 
    
    Our client, after upgrading from VMS 5.4-2 to 5.5-2, met the following
    problem:
    
    "Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on GTMSN1
     %QMAN-E-SYMDEL, unexpected symbiont process termination
    
     Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on GTMSN1
     -RMS-E-FNF, file not found
     %RMS-E-FNF, file not found"
    
    returned if "START/QUEUE OA$FORMATTER" command is issued.
    
    The ALL-IN-1 version is V2.4.
    
    "SHOW QUEUE OA$FORMATTER/FULL" get the following
    
    Printer queue OA$FORMATTER, stopped, on GTMSN1::, mounted from DEFAULT
      /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED, FORM=DEFAULT) /OWNER=[SYSTEM]
      /PROCESSOR=OA$FORMATTTER /PROTECTION=(S:E,O:D,G:R,W:W) /RETAIN=ERROR
    
    
    Is it a known problem? How should I trouble it? Any workaround?
    
    Any assistenance?
    
    Thanks
    Alex
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2875.1A relink?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeThu Jun 17 1993 10:027
    You might try relinking ALL-IN-1, or especially OA$FORMATTER, and after
    stopping the queue, replacing the image with the new one and restart
    the queue.
    
    More informed suggestions when Richard arrives!
    
    Graham
2875.2OA$FORMATTER -> Server Queue!!VNABRW::EHRLICH_KHealth & a long life with youThu Jun 17 1993 10:3915
    Hi Alex,
    
    as we see here OA$FORMATTER-QUEUE as PRINTER Queue, that will result in
    having some problems. OA$FORMATTER-Queue should be a SERVER Queue.
    
    Maybe you can $  STOP/RESET/QUE OA$FORMATTER, $ DELETE /QUEUE OA$FORMATTER
    and run the commandprocedure @oa$build:OA$FORMATTER_START OA$.
    (when you look in the 'code' see that p1 has to be the prefix!)
    
    But as GAP says in re.1, AFTER an VMS-Upgrade it's recommended to RELINK
    and restart ALL-IN-1.
    
    Best regards
    Charly_from_CSC_Vienna
2875.3'Printer' queueIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Thu Jun 17 1993 11:4415
If the OA$FORMATTER queue is shown as a 'Printer' queue this probably means
that the OA$FORMATTER symbiont process never got as far as executing some
code to turn itself into a server queue.  When OA$FORMATTER was first
written this was the only way of making a queue a server queue.  The
INITIALIZE/QUEUE/DEVICE=SERVER method was not available. 

My guess is that the OA$FORMATTER symbiont image cannot be activated.  If 
you do:

    RUN SYS$SYSTEM:OA$FORMATTER

from DCL you may get some additional diagnostics which indicate why not.


Richard
2875.4Was CDA upgraded ?TINNIE::SETHIAhhhh (-: an upside down smile from OZThu Jun 17 1993 12:2919
    Hi,
    
    I saw this note and I was working on solving this problem on my 3.0
    system.  I re-linked ALL-IN-1 IOS and followed the book every thing
    works fine for me now.
    
    I remember a Mr. Bossman or was it Jan wrote a reply pointing to the
    fact if CDA is upgraded the image SYS$LIBRARY:CDA$ACCESS.EXE is
    referenced by OA$FORMATTER.  Well we upgraded CDA and tried using
    OA$FORMATTER we had lot's of .dmp files in SYS$SYSTEM and the formatter
    queue stalled.
    
    So a re-link of ALL-IN-1 is required if you upgrade OpenVMS, CDA etc.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
    
    PS - Where is Mr. Bossman ?
2875.5Sjaak is in customer modeUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTOeps, even Apeldoorn bellen...Thu Jun 17 1993 20:4118
    Hello,
    
>    I remember a Mr. Bossman or was it Jan wrote a reply pointing to the
>
    
    Note 689 descibes similar problems.
    
>    PS - Where is Mr. Bossman ?

    Sjaak was a contractor... 
    Now works for a large dutch customer. Reported half a the
    LLV related 3.0 problems. Provided most of the time the 
    relevant fix.
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
2875.6Missing images in sharable image listZPOVC::CHINGYUEMon Jun 21 1993 12:4212
    I've encountered this before and it was due to some missing
    images in sys$library.
    
    Try $ana/image/out=lcy.ana sys$system:oa$formatter.exe
        $search lcy.ana /win=20  "list"
    
    Make sure you have all the images displayed.
    
    You may start/que oa$formatter after that.
    
    Just solved that 3 days ago.
    ching-U