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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2851.0. "TeamLinks V2.0, TeamLinks Connection for IOS" by SIOG::T_REDMOND (Thoughts of an Idle Mind) Fri Jun 11 1993 15:35

    After discussing the subject with Graham Pye, he and I felt that the
    general rule about discussing unreleased products in this conference
    should be broken in order to keep people up to date with the latest
    news this week.  This is to avoid you getting into a situation where
    your customer knows more than you do about Digital's future plans.
    
    On June 8 Digital announced TeamLinks V2.0 and the TeamLinks Connection
    Package V2.0.  Ship date is "expected later on this year", and dates
    were given at a non-disclosure meeting held at DECUS in Atlanta.
    
    An early baselevel of TeamLinks V2.0 was demo'd at DECUS and attracted
    large amounts of attention, gaining lots of positive comment and
    feedback.  The demo showed ALL-IN-1 IOS V3.0 acting as both a file
    cabinet and messaging server for a TeamLinks client.  In other words,
    66% of normal ALL-IN-1 activities (FMS and word processing/mail
    preparation) was offloaded to a Windows client.  The integration was
    very smooth, and the latest WordPerfect integration macros (designed
    for TeamLinks V1.1 and now in late beta test) were usable with
    TeamLinks v2.0, thus proving that the general approach to third party
    integration taken in TeamLinks V1 (FILECAB.DLL) works after an upgrade.
    
    Major points shown to customers included:
    
    -- ALL-IN-1 dataset server (AIDA), used for mail validatin against
       PROFIL, NETWORK et. al.  Actually, an AIDA-specific data set called
       ADDRESS$ is used to access ALL-IN-1 sources of address information.
    
    -- TeamLinks V2.0 features:
       -- Menu customization
       -- "Create document" option (just like IOS, you can create non-mail
          objects from the Information Manager now)
       -- Performance improvements due to the single INFOMAN.EXE (as
          opposed to two images in V1), plus more intelligent use of
          resources.
       -- Automatic escalation of mail validation thru PAB, server
          subscriber list (DEC MAILworks or ALL-IN-1 PROFIL) to DDS
       -- New TeamLinks Setup utility (good redesign)
    
    Also discussed was the TCP/IP support for TeamLinks V2 clients to
    access ALL-IN-1 resources such as the File Cabinet and AIDA servers.
    
    The reaction was overwhelming -- it was the first DECUS in a long time
    where we weren't getting beaten up by customers.  They were so happy to
    see TeamLinks V2.0 and the IOS connection. All their system management
    facilities can operate for TeamLinks clients -- a big plus point for
    large sites.  The possibilities of building Windows front ends to IOS
    applications using the AIDA server for access (and solving problems
    like concurrent access to data by VT and PC users along the way) was
    also a popular point of discussion.  I spent lots of times with
    individual customers going over how they can use TeamLinks V2.0 towards
    the end of the year. 
    
    Anyway, we (GAP and I) felt that the good news should be spread out as
    quickly as possible.  We have a winner here!  Let's make sure that we
    let everyone know about it.
    
    Tony
    
    P.S. Get "official" information (like the press release) from your
    local Marketing people.  If they don't know anything about it I suggest
    that you contact Steve Martin @ZKO (Corporate) or Catherine Hayward
    @REO (Europe) for information.
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2851.1Some motivation for a change!IOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Fri Jun 11 1993 18:0116
    Hi Tony!
    
    	Great news! Thanks for letting us know. Small nit:
    
>-- Automatic escalation of mail validation thru PAB, server
>subscriber list (DEC MAILworks or ALL-IN-1 PROFIL) to DDS
    
    	Actually we'll be picking up NETWORK.DAT, nicknames and groups
    	in the final version, but this baselevel has a bug and only
    	picks up PROFIL.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
    
    PS	I have stopped reading this conference for a while due to
    	schedule pressures but someone pointed me to it.
2851.2And for DIGITAL employees?YR2000::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Mon Jun 14 1993 07:1212
    Tony,
    
    might we also tell people how to get a baselevel of said product now
    that the customers have seen it???
    
     I believe that in addition to what you listed the product also requires
    an unnanounced ALL-IN-1 patch kit - correct?
        
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks (who doesn't have a baselevel)
2851.3Working . . .IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeMon Jun 14 1993 11:5517
    Andy,
    
    At the moment you need four Central Engineering developers om site to
    install it. And you have to buy them several beers and get us to work
    all day Sunday to make it work!
    
    And then to keep it working, you have to stop the people demonstrating
    it from changing the connection type to Async....
    
    Other than that it's simple :-)
    
    Rest assured that as soon as it's suitable for wider distribution, it
    will be made available internally.
    
    Graham
    
    PS As long as you don't mention any football results!
2851.4Gee.... ADW must have really hated that 1-1 drawSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindMon Jun 14 1993 20:2615
    Andy,
    
    Stop being so picky.  GAP and I felt that it was good judgement to
    inform the field about software that was being demo'd at DECUS. 
    Otherwise we put our people at a positive disadvantage.  I don't like
    doing this.  
    
    Field test baselevels that don't require lots of engineers to install
    and maintain (although I must say that the software behaved itself
    *most* of the time that I was using it -- fear, or something, coming
    into play) will be available later on this summer.  Further discussion
    on this topic (apart from the great reaction at DECUS) should be
    conducted in the ABBOTT::A1INFO conference.
    
    Tony
2851.5Installing ...AIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Tue Jun 15 1993 00:0613
    GAP,
    
    Thanks for the positive response! sorry to have missed you.
    I don't have 4 engineering developers to hand (and isn't AVB a
    manager?) but i'm going to try to install it anyway. 
                  
    Tony,
                                               
    nice to see you back in the notesfile... 
                         
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2851.6Yes, really four!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeTue Jun 15 1993 19:237
    The count of four engineers included an extremely valuable member of
    the TeamLinks development team, who was unfortunately too busy writing
    the product to be able to stay all week!
    
    AVB didn't arrive until later on Sunday.
    
    Graham
2851.7A successful install!AIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Tue Jun 15 1993 23:238
    GAP,
    
    oh ok - oh by the way I now have it running about 30 miles north of
    where you installed it. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
2851.8ECCGY4::HAIGHGod save the mad parade.Wed Jul 14 1993 15:2224
    
    	I'd just like to clarify, in my own head, the current situation
    with regard to Teamlinks and the ALL-IN-1 IOS mailserver.
    
    1)	With Teamlinks V2.0, the IOS mail server becomes fully operational.
    What I mean is with the exception of the Teamroute functionality, I
    will be able to use the ALL-IN-1 IOS as my PC mail server and can forget
    about the DECmailworks product, if I so choose. From my PC I will be
    able to fully utilise the remote IOS file cabinet, and be able to use
    all mail functions (reply, forward, etc.)
    
    2)	The TL X2.0 is in the early stages of field test and not
    particularly robust? 
    
    3)	The A1_ECO001030 patch kit should be installed before attempting to
    install TL X2.0?
    
    		I realize that many of these questions may seem trivial to
    some but there is such a HUGE amount of information relating to these
    products that sometimes the very basic questions are forgotten.
    
    		Cheers
    
    		Steve
2851.9Some answersAIMTEC::WICKS_AU.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there!Wed Jul 14 1993 17:5419
    Steve,
    
    1) yes - it does almost everything you can do from a VT.
    
    2) no I wouldn't say it was unstable. remember TL v2.0 includes more
       bits than just the IOS connection. The DECMAILworks piece is pretty
       solid. The IOS bit is still under development but all should be well
       for a stable EFT kit in the next few weeks. If you have a customer
       then register for the kit now and demo it when the EFT kit is
       announced.
                                                            
    3) yes and No - you also have to install an unnannounced and not
       discussed here yet patch that i'll call the MUP (hope that's ok with
       the other moderators) Such a patch will also go to EFT with TL v2.0
       and the IOS connection soon.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2851.10... well, nearly almost everything ;-)BOOZER::MARTIN::BELLMartin Bell, NTCC, Birmingham UKThu Jul 15 1993 09:248
Re: .9

>    1) yes - it does almost everything you can do from a VT.

Although i don't think that you will be able to do the Set Mail User
command with v2.0!

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