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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2802.0. "Callable Interface?" by SCHERZ::SAMPL () Fri Jun 04 1993 10:46

    Hi all,
    
    	One of our customers has a document archiving system. The documents
    	archived are from various sources/formats. One of these being
    	WPS-PLUS. The documents are archived in their original format and
    	must later be available for list (view) or print. 
    	Since WPS-PLUS does not supply a callable interface, we are actually 
    	looking for a way to display or print WPS-PLUS files from outside of 
    	ALL-IN-1 but with the help of ALL-IN-1 functions. 
     
    
    	The questions now are:
    
    		o	Is it possible to call these functions from outside
    			of ALL-IN-1 V3.0 (callable interface?). 
    		
    		o   	Are there any examples of such solutions around?
    
    
    Many thanks for your help,
    Viktor	  
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2802.1Try ViewerMIMS::HUSSEY_DNOT the MAMA!!! NOT the MAMA!!!Fri Jun 04 1993 15:509
    From DCL try:
    
    $ VIEW [/INTERFACE=DECWINDOWS] wpl-file-spec/FORMAT=WPL
    
    and see if the presentation is acceptable.  Don't recall, but the
    WPL-to-DDIF converter may be supplied with DECwrite rather than
    ALL-IN-1.
    
    dh�
2802.2VIEW not acceptablePROFIN::SAMPLMon Jun 07 1993 10:2111
    Thanks for your reply.
    
    Well, that's what we considered first, but the conversion does not meet
    our expectations. What the customers want, is to save *a* document
    (regardless what format) in the archiving system, and retrieve/print it
    some times later (months, years) with the same attributes/layout.
    		
    Any other ideas?
    
    Thanks in advance.
    Viktor
2802.4Not callableIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Jun 09 1993 12:4412
It is not possible to call ALL-IN-1 functions from outside of ALL-IN-1.

When you have an archived .WPL file why can't you run ALL-IN-1 and DT RV
(Document Transfer, Receive file from VMS) it into ALL-IN-1 in order to
read or print it?  

WPS-PLUS/VMS has 'invokeable' components which can read and print WPS-PLUS 
files.  These are not supplied as part of ALL-IN-1.


Richard

2802.5Not always possiblePROFIN::SAMPLWed Jun 09 1993 15:2325
    Richard,
    
    	The question of the Callable interface to ALL-IN-1 came up because
    	the archiving system can be started from ALL-IN-1 or from $,
    	so the DCLMAILBOX/OAMAILBOX technique of the subprocess to get
    	ALL-IN-1 functionality is not always useable. 
    
    	ALL-IN-1/WPS-PLUS is just one of many sources from where documents
    	can be stored into the archiving system. ALL-IN-1 users can 
    	store WPS-PLUS documents through an interface provided by the 
    	archiving system. But what about all the users which have no 
    	ALL-IN-1 account or started the application from $ and 
    	wish to view/print a certain .WPL document? 
    
    	If I understand correctly, we have the following choices:
    
    	o	Only one access point to the Application (through ALL-IN-1)
    	o	Sell WPS-PLUS/VMS
    	o	Use VIEWer
    	o 	Do not store .WPL but convert to ASCII before archiving
    
    
    	Thanks,
    	Viktor		
    
2802.6IDNTCR::RHOTONJohn Rhoton @TNO - DTN 871.7947Wed Jun 09 1993 15:4117
re: .5

>    	o 	Do not store .WPL but convert to ASCII before archiving

You would not necessarily need to convert to ASCII but could convert to
any supported text data set (e.g. DX).  If you wanted to write your own
data set action routine then you could create your own data set and
make sure that it was in a format that could be read by all of your users.

This, of course, is not a trivial task but if you are interested in all
the possibilities it may be worth considering.  See the
ASIAGO::ALL-IN-1_CLI conference if you are interested in pursuing this
further.

Just a thought ...

John
2802.7As I see it: can be doneMIMS::HUSSEY_DNOT the MAMA!!! NOT the MAMA!!!Wed Jun 09 1993 15:4820
    Bit rushed, but basically correct.
    
    Store document in original .WPL format or converted to DDIF
    
    1) For viewing:
    
    	a) Use CDA Viewer (e.g. $VIEW/....)
    	b) Run up ALL-IN-1 or WPS-PLUS to view
    	c) Print a hardcopy ;^)
    
    2) For printing:
    
    	a) Convert to text/postscript/etc. via CDA library (e.g.
    	   $CONVERT/DOCUMENT ...) and print.
    	b) Pass document to ALL-IN-1/WPS-PLUS background formatter for
    	   formatting and printing (model after printing subsystem).
    	c) Pass request to batch job running ALL-IN-1 for processing.
    
    Please note that what is actually seen as a result of any of these is a
    final form document.  Some more faithful than others.
2802.8Lets tryPROFIN::SAMPLWed Jun 09 1993 17:059
    Well, lots of ideas, ways...
    
    Personally I prefer the idea of storing the document as .WPL, 
    using VIEWer for viewing and the background formatter for printing. At
    least they would get the document in its original layout as hardcopy.
    
    Lets try.
    Thanks to all.
    Viktor