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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2739.0. "Questions on Housekeeping Procedures" by EVOCDG::DEC_HELLAS () Fri May 21 1993 08:23

    Hi there,
    
    we are using ALL-IN-1 V3.0 and having the following problems with two
    of the housekeeping procedures:
    
    1. 
    When the housekeeping proc. TEST_AND_REPAIR_USER_AREAS run , after
    midnight, it detects that some users are logged into their ALL-IN-1
    account. Therefore, it doesn't complete its job and exits saying:
    
    Phase 3 will not continue due to errors found in Phase 1 and/or Phase 2...
     ...check phase 1/phase 2 of this log file.
    
    
    The log file contains the message:
    
    Scanning Drawer [xxxxxxx.yyyyyyyyy]zzzzzzzzz at 01:34 AM
    ------------------------------------------
    
    Failed to access Drawer
    -- Drawer in use
    ** This error would prevent TRM from completing **
                                                
    However, the "accused users" are not logged in, at that time. Our ZAP
    (idle processes and users killer) does its job perfectly. None survives
    after 40 min of inactivity! I even monitored the system (on a sleepless
    nigh...t, remotely via my modem from home), and there was no user using 
    ALL-IN-1 before and while the above procedure was running.
    
    Any clues  on that?
    
    2.
    The procedure REORGANIZE SYSTEM FILES runs perfectly and does its job. 
    I checked the log file, and all files are converted normally. But...,
    towards the end of the log file there is a line saying 
    
    %SMJACKET-E- Internal error in housekeeping procedure
    
    I searched the entire log file and there no indication of previous
    errors. Why do I get this message line, which generates an ALL-IN-1
    message to be sent to the Manager's account, while the procedure has
    done its job? Any clues on this one?
    
    
    regards
    
    Nicholas
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2739.1IOSG::MAURICENight rolls in, my dark companionFri May 21 1993 09:0414
    Hi,
    
    On the first question, to find out who has the drawer open the easiest
    way is to do a:
    
    $sho dev/files/out=a.tmp ddddd
    $sear a.tmp xxxxxx
      
      where ddddd is the disk the drawer is located on
            xxxxx is the ALL-IN-1 user name of the drawer.
    
    HTH
    
    Stuart
2739.2Moi an FCS expert?? Non!IOSG::BILSBOROUGHJust testing. Please ignore!!! Fri May 21 1993 10:056
    
    I thingk the first problem could be due to a document in that drawer
    currently being reserved and gets locked by the file cabinet server.
    This is a known problem.
    
    Mike
2739.3Fixed in V3.0-1IOSG::MAURICENight rolls in, my dark companionFri May 21 1993 11:4014
    Mike's right - it will be the FCS that has the files open. The TRU
    procedure does not require a system shutdown, and so the FCS would not
    have been stopped. 
    
    In V3.0-1 TRU has been fixed so that the drawer in use messages are no
    longer accompanied by "** This error would stop TRM from completing **"
    messages, and will not cause a housekeeping failure mail message.
    
    If you have no users running, then you could have shutdown ALL-IN-1,
    and this would have stopped the FCS.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
2739.4Number 2 looks familar alsoAIMTEC::WICKS_AAlphatraz - Coming Summer 93Sat May 22 1993 02:278
    Nicolas,
    
    i believe that your second problem is also a 'known one' have you
    searched this notesfile or STARS?
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2739.5No answer yetEVOCDG::DEC_HELLASMon May 24 1993 08:3220
    
    Ref. to .1: Stuart thanks for your fast reply, but I have been using the 
    "show/out=xxx & search xxx 'string'" technique since VMS V4.5 in mid
    80's. The problem is not there. The problem is that there is a bug. And
    it will not do any good to monitor the FCS after mid-night to find out
    that... FCS keeps the user's files locked!(PS: ALL-IN-1 managementt takes
    approximately lless than 3 or 5% of my time, and... I would spend no 
    extra time after midnight to watch ALL-IN-1 processes. I did it once
    and that was enough!). 
    
    Ref. to the rest: Thanks, guys. I have been using the TIMA/STARS database
    extensively for various things, but not for these two specific
    problems. I first posted my questions here. 
    
    
    thanks and regards
    
    Nicholas
    
    Nicholas