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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2713.0. "Reading RTF attachments in IOS" by OASS::ANDRES_B () Thu May 13 1993 22:23

    Hello,
    
    I would like to know if anyone can give me information on using
    the CDA Converter Library 2.0 with ALL-IN-1 V3.0 to read RTF
    attachments on mail messages.  I have read some of the notes in
    this conference and others on how to accomplish this but I am
    not having much success.  Using the information in previous notes
    I can read RTF files that are stored in my IOS file cabinet,but 
    not RTF attachments to mail messages.
    
    A customer site is using Microsoft Word for Windows to create
    documents and the document is being saved as an RTF file.  Using
    Teamlinks Information Manager, a message is created and the rtf
    file is attached to the message and mailed to an IOS user.
    The IOS user reads the mail message and can read the first part
    of the message but the RTF attachment is displayed as FOREIGN
    document type cannot be displayed.
    
    I apologize if this has been answered previously but I was having
    difficulty finding what I needed.  A pointer to a note I might have
    missed would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Beth Andres
    
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2713.1QAR, SPR, SRF, CLD ???UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTAjax, Ajax, Ajax...Mon May 17 1993 15:5813
    Hello,
    
    Looks like this is the best kept secret of the month.
    
    I wonder why there is no response at all. Is the question to dumb to
    answer or is the problem to hard.
    
    Perhaps we should use formal channels....
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
2713.2difference in attachment processingAIMTEC::BUTLER_TMon May 17 1993 21:3917
    Beth and Jan,
    
    I read and re-read noted 1542 and 2402 (.5 and .8) and I think you
    should use the channels.
    
    In my case, it may be a question of to dumb to understand because
    there is something missing.  What is going on inside ALL-IN-1 with
    the Attachment?
    
    It is not clear from 2402 if Teamlinks and ALL-IN-1 work both ways
    or not with attachments.
    
    Maybe Andrew, (he does those mail thingy's) can make sense of it
    for us.
    
    Tim
    
2713.3We keep on asking, why does noone answer?AIMTEC::WICKS_AAlphatraz - Coming Summer 93Mon May 17 1993 21:5210
    Tim,
    
    Andrew has given up on this one, attempts to get a definite yes or no
    as to whether this works and if so how from both ALL-IN-1 and TeamLinks
    Engineering have so far proved unsuccessful hence why Beth posted this
    note attempting to elicit the secret from anyone.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2713.4Change MAIL READ ?DELBOY::DORANAMy theory is this...Tue May 18 1993 19:2119
    I don't have an answer that I can post, but...
    
    Having worked on systems with KEYPAK for ALL-IN-1 IOS, that does
    exactly what you want... They change MAIL READ in the relevant named
    data to be a DO KPAK_CODE:something.SCP
    
    In their script, they then look through the attachments (FOR
    CAB$ATTACH...) and call their own conversion routines if the document
    format is non standard, or just LIST if it's a normal format (ie WPS+).
    
    I guess you could do similar and check for format of RTF2 - calling
    your code if required to show the document.
    
    Hopefully that's enough of a pointer for now - I'm not in the office
    this week so I can't get any more info to you yet...
    
    Cheers,
    
    Andy
2713.5Add RTF as format ?UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTAjax, Ajax, Ajax...Mon May 24 1993 22:3820
    Hello again,
    
    I am not going to give up on this one.
    
    Perhaps adding RTF1 and/or RTF2 to FORMAT.DAT can do the trick.
    
    Convert Document from RTF2 to WPS-PLUS works like a charm. 
    ALL-IN-1 invokes CDA just like expected to do the convertion.
    
    Defining the edit, list and print functions should be doable.
    Perhaps this is a challenging issue for a support specialist studying
    for TCD level 8...
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
    
    
    
2713.6This must be a really BIG secretAIMTEC::WICKS_AAlphatraz - Coming Summer 93Mon May 24 1993 22:4712
    Jan,                        
    
    What would you define the edit etc functions as though?.... I guess I still
    don't understand why the experts are shy and won't explain the steps
    so that even a dumb EDT user such as myself could understand.
    
    Actually I think that Kevin Laahs hinted at something like that in
    the TeamLinks conference but it's all too technical for me.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2713.7WE NEED HELPUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTAjax, Ajax, Ajax...Tue May 25 1993 08:1733
       Andrew,
       
       I think you can define the edit etc functions to run
       a script to convert the doc and list, edit and print the stuff.
       Keypak uses the same approach. I had a look at the scripts
       which perform the wellworking Convert Document functions. 
       They contain all we need. But its lots of code.
       
       I think customers want a IOSG supported set of modifications. 
       
       Since Simon was puzzled (13-JUL-1992) only questions has 
       araise in a number of note conferences. The last advise from 
       John Boebinger was: use Text as interchange format... Does not 
       sounds like "digital the system integrator". 
       
       But its not only ALL-IN-1. I am trying to get a pilot running
       (CDA, MCM, TeamLinks MAC and Win, Keypak, IOS and MAILworks),
       WPS-PLUS, Win Word, WP).
       Seems straightforward doesn't it. Mail based Conversion and 
       (re)filing of attachments is a hell. Is RoadRunner going to make
       IOS / TeamLinks live easier ?
       
       I truly do not understand why there is no response. There must
       be someone who had to fix these problems somewhere !
       
       Perhaps Tony can arrange an Office Solutions Integration Seminar. 
       Valbonne is fine. 
       So I would say: everyone who thinks the field needs structured
       support, please reply to this note.
       
       Regards,
       
       Jan
2713.8MAILbus conversion manager??WOTVAX::64354::DoranI like traffic lightsTue May 25 1993 18:4411
Jan,

If you are looking at sending mail around from multiple platforms to multiple 
platforms, have you looked into using MAILbus Conversion Manager (MCM)?

Sounds like this may do the job for you - it can convert documents that are 
mailed around 'on the fly'...

Worth a look?

Andy
2713.9MCM works fineUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTAjax, Ajax, Ajax...Wed May 26 1993 11:4813
    Andy,
    
    MCM seems to be the best solution. Uses Keypak, CDA and IOS for
    conversion. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan