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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2679.0. "Upgrade versus New Install questions" by KAOT01::J_PLUGERS (Too poor to pay attention) Fri May 07 1993 14:30

I have just been asked to get involved at a Customer site to do a migration
from a uVAX 3900 to a VAX 4400.  The system is running VMS V5.1-1 and ALL-IN-1
version 2.3.  I am trying to decide if it would not be better to just install
VMS V5.5-2 and ALL-IN-1 V3.0 on the new system and just move over the ALL-IN-1
users and data from the 3900.

ALL-IN-1 V2.3 is not customized at all, other than the Shared File cabinet
assett that has been installed.  It also has Wordperfect integration.
There is no message router installed.

Does this sound like a easy task, or should I just go through and upgrade
VMS and ALL-IN-1 and then move the disks?

If I were to install a new V3.0 on the 4400,  is it very complicated to move
the ALL-IN-1 users from the 2.3 system to the 3.0 system?

I know that I will have to convert the user profile.  Don't know what will
happen with the previous shared file cabinet asset, now that it is standard
with V3.0.

If anyone can advise on what would be the best path to take, and what problems
I may run into, what may need conversion, etc. I would be most appreciative.

The customer cannot afford a lot of down time.

Thanks in advance.
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2679.1Here's my free adviceGANTRY::HULLDigital Services Delivery - MotownFri May 07 1993 16:2114
Personally,  I would back up the V2.3 system and restore "as is" on the VAX
4400, and then do an Upgrade to V3.0.  There are many file conversions that
take place, as well as things like seeding the partition file, etc.  Its
really a lot simpler to just let the installation procedure do all this.
There is also a shared file cabinet migration script or conversion
somewhere in there that will take you from the ASSETS style to the new
base-code stuff.I would expect the system to be down for at least 2 days,
maybe 3 considering all that is involved.  Do you also have the correct
V3.0-compatible WP upgrade to also add on after V3.0 is installed?  That's
more time, too.

IMHO,

	Al
2679.2Be sfae not sorryAIMTEC::WICKS_Aon the Streets of San FranciscoFri May 07 1993 17:5010
    I go with Al!
    
    A fresh install wouldn't buy you a lot particularly with the SFCP
    stuff on the system - the Upgrade installation code does things a lot
    better and a lot safer then trying to save time by doing a fresh
    install.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2679.3I will go with the upgrade.KAOT01::J_PLUGERSToo poor to pay attentionMon May 10 1993 18:1414
    Thanks for the feedback.
    
    I will do an upgrade instead of a new install/merge.  I plan on
    upgrading VMS V5.1-1 to V5.5-2 in order to support the VAX 4400.  Once
    the dust settles, I will begin planning the ALL-IN-1 V2.3 to V3.0
    upgrade.
    
    Does anyone know of any problems running ALL-IN-1 Version 2.3 under VMS
    V5.5-2?
    
    Thanks again,
    John Plugers
    Digital MCS
    Toronto