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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2578.0. "Postmaster mail storms" by CTHQ::REYNOLDS () Fri Apr 16 1993 03:14


    Hi:

        We are experiencing a situation in MTS land in which
        internet users are sending messages addressed
 
        [email protected]

        The reason some outsiders send mail this way can be
        found in the way Message Router builds a return address
        by listing each entity that handled the message.

        When users send messages [email protected]
        or [email protected] someone can assist them.  However,
        mail addressed to the ALL-IN-1 postmaster account casues
        "mail storms" where the mail bounces back and forth from
        the ALL-IN-1 node and the internet host because the internet
        mailer does not recognize the bounced message as a reject
        and the ALL-IN-1 postmaster account is used by the sender 
        and fetcher and is not used to read mail.  My understanding
        of the postmaster account is that ALL-IN-1 manager's don't
        log into it.  

        Does anyone have a good workaround/fix/patch from the ALL-IN-1
        perspective.
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2578.1Send the mail differently?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeFri Apr 16 1993 11:2619
    This might be happening because mail sent from ALL-IN-1 using
    underscore addressing (e.g. _IOSG::PYE to mail me) appears to come from
    the Postmaster, and hence when replied to goes back to the Postmaster.
    Normally the Postmaster's account is set to not receive mai, and hence
    the mail is rejected.
    
    You could allow the Postmaster to receive mail, and go in and sort it
    out manually. Or perhaps autoforward it to MANAGER, although I'm not
    sure if this would have any side effects.
    
    Perhaps you should stop people sending stuff out in the first place in
    a way that causes the mail to appear to come from the Postmaster.
    Messages to the internet addressed like this:
    
    	"[email protected]"@VBORMC@MRGATE
    
    work for me, and can be successfully replied to.
    
    Graham
2578.2A bit moreIOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO2-G/M6Fri Apr 16 1993 12:4310
    Further to Graham's answer:
    
    the only reason that POSTMASTER won't receive mail is because
    his/her/its MAIDES is set to NO MAIL. So if you change it to ALLIN1
    [sic] or ALL-IN-1, POSTMASTER will receive mail quite normally (it's a
    normal user as far as ALL-IN-1's concerned.) Then you'll need to log
    into POSTMASTER (VMS login to the ALLIN1 account, then do
    $ALLIN1/U=POSTMASTER. You may need to supply an ALL-IN-1 password).
    
    Dave.
2578.3Be careful, Mr. PostmasterCOPCLU::ELINElin Christensen @DMO, DTN 857-2406Fri Apr 16 1993 14:408
- But don't use the POSTMASTER account while Sender and Fetcher are running.

ALL-IN-1 IOS Mail Mgt. Guide chapter 1.5.3:

"You must not log in to the Postmaster account, as this interferes with the
running of Sender and Fetcher."

Elin
2578.4ATLANA::SHERMANDebt Free!Fri Apr 16 1993 18:167
  Except in those cases where sites have implemented the mechanism to split
  the Sender and Fetcher, typically creating an "A1SENDER" and "A1FETCHER"
  profile entry.  (Also described in the ALL-IN-1 IOS Mail Mgt. Guide)

  Hthy,

	Ron