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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2541.0. "Some fields in the profile." by AIMTEC::SIMPSON_L () Wed Apr 07 1993 19:36

    Hello,
    
    I have a customer running ALL-IN-1 V2.4.  He is asking
    what some of the fields in Profile.dat are.  He has not found anything
    on them really in the documentation and I have not either.  I have seen
    that
    they (or at least some of them) are still around in V3.0.
    
    Can anyone give me some information about these fields that I can
    convey to 
    the customer?  He just wants to know what they are used for.
    
    They are:
    
    reserved
    rsvd_for_tcs
    image$display
    utility
    extra1
    extra2
    
    Thanks very much.
    
    Laurie
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2541.1Historical....IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeWed Apr 07 1993 19:416
    They are all either used in the past and no longer used, or just never
    used. Was he thinking of stealing them for something?
    
    Graham
    
    PS Or did he want the full history lesson? :-)
2541.2UTILITY is said to be in useAIMTEC::WICKS_AOscar the Grouch is an Optimist!Wed Apr 07 1993 19:5415
    GAP,
    
    I thought UTILITY was used?  for some LMF related stuff.
    
    Using or removing EXTRA1 and EXTRA2 would make PROFILE smaller or should
    I say less big on these systems with 1K-2K ALL-IN-1 users??
    
    Laurie - The Internals and Data Structures Manual documents these fields
    in table 3-24 - RTFIDSM (:==:)
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2541.3AIMTEC::SIMPSON_LWed Apr 07 1993 20:2810
    Graham,
    
    It appears to be a case of "Inquiring minds want to know."
    
    Andrew,
    
    Is it on-line? :-)
    
    Laurie
2541.4access and on-line!AIMTEC::BUTLER_TWed Apr 07 1993 21:449
    Laurie,
    
    If it was on-line you could look in the appendix of Tony's Book.
    
    You do not have access to the other item.
    
    Look at your call, I put some notes in there for you.
    
    Tim
2541.5Oops I didn't realise it was a secret - sorryAIMTEC::WICKS_AOscar the Grouch is an Optimist!Wed Apr 07 1993 22:179
    Laurie,
    
    Well the consultant says not! as a fellow minion myself I don't see
    why not but I guess this is an internal CSC issue that we shouldn't
    clutter up GAP's conference with.
                  
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2541.6Utility is used - in a wayIOSG::TYLDESLEYThu Apr 08 1993 10:2113
    Just to back up Andrew's answer, 'Utility' is 'used' in the sense that
    you can find code that refers to the field. However, I believe that the
    original usage made of the field at the UI level (ignoring utility a/cs
    in a count of profile entries) has been removed.
    
    I recently had reason to search for uses (by Digital) of the fields:
    Reserved, Rsvd_for_tcs, Extra1, Extra2 - I couldn't find any (but they
    will remain).
    
    Image$display - don't know.
    
    Cheers
    DaveT
2541.7Image$display....IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeThu Apr 08 1993 11:0511
    During V2.3 development, we wrote a lot of code to support an
    integartion of image support that we were going to do. The imaging
    project got canned, and so we threw away our integaration. The profile
    field was going to control whether an image received in your mail was
    displayed by the read code or not. I guess you had to have the right
    sort of terminal, but I can't remember now.
    
    If you dig around in the code, you might find some other references,
    like OA$LIST commands to go back and forwards by an image etc....
    
    Graham (Assistant Historian)
2541.8We've been burnt like this already . . .IOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO2-G/M6Thu Apr 08 1993 13:557
    The reason why we don't take them out is that people may have used them
    in customisations etc.
    
    In theory, if they're empty they don't waste any significant disk
    space, as the file has Data Compression turned on.
    
    D.
2541.9AIMTEC::BUTLER_TFri Apr 09 1993 14:5611
    re: .5
    
    It has nothing to do with position, it has to do with the focal at
    the csc and the agreements made with those residing over there
    where you check football scores.
    
    Remember, what I had to do to get a copy!  And they still came after
    us.
    
    Tim
2541.10Utility is usedIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Tue Apr 13 1993 10:5114
>    Just to back up Andrew's answer, 'Utility' is 'used' in the sense that
>    you can find code that refers to the field. However, I believe that the
>    original usage made of the field at the UI level (ignoring utility a/cs
>    in a count of profile entries) has been removed.
    
    
    	Yes, Utility is used. If you set an account as Utility (there's SM UI
    	to do so) then that account does not have to be in the /RESERVE
    	list of a personal license (ALL-IN-1 V3.0 onwards). The counting of
    	profile entries has indeed been removed. Sounds like the documentation
    	needs improving.
    
    Regards,
    Paul