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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2496.0. "Upgrade V2.3 to V3.0 Advise wanted" by NEWVAX::SHEINBERG (Reda,COP,DTN:339-5387) Tue Mar 30 1993 15:29

I am preparing an upgrade plan for my Exec Office of President customer 
going from ALL-IN-1 V2.3 and ALL-IN-1 V3.0.   This customer has a lot of
customizations in the base kit as well as standalone customizations on their
current V2.3 system.  They have never upgraded before and are very sensitive
to any system down time.

Fortunately the customer has a test VAX system, where I have
been moving all the customizations and making modifications to the base kit.

I read Tony Redmond's book concerning upgrades.   He stated that if you build
your system on a test system.  You can bring over the new V3.0 system to your
operational  system and then run the post install (A1$POSTINSTAL)  procedure on
the  operational system to update user profiles... printer tables, etc.

Question:

1.  We started with a new ALL-IN-1 V3.0 system on the test VAX and have been 
moving over customizations from operational system as well as recustomizing 
site elements for elements
with required and recommended changes via the CART which we ran on their V2.3
system.   My question can I move over this ALL-IN-1 installation (ie all the
scripts, files, forms for the customizations) and then run
a post install that I modify to reflect differences in disk names etc?  Any
experience with this?   Any other guidelines?  Tony Redmond said you can do 
this however he indicated that you need to do an upgrade on the test system and
move the upgrade over and then run post install.  Can I do this with a fresh
installation?

2) Or do
you recommend an upgrade on the operational system and moving over the modified
site log etc?   Any recommendations?

3) The customer is very sensitive to down time.  ANd since we are doing this 
over a weekend window, I need as smooth a upgrade path as possible.  They will
also need time to check out their customizations before going live on Monday
morning.  Any guidelines here?  A successful upgrade plan that someone has
used?

Thanks



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2496.1Upgrade strategies a bit like religious beliefsAIMTEC::WICKS_AOscar the Grouch is an Optimist!Tue Mar 30 1993 17:4623
    Reda,
    
    will Tony be providing weekend coverage for this upgrade? (:==:)
    
    I would strongly recommend that you call your friendly local CSC for
    advice on this upgrade or if you have access to STARS search the OA1
    database for articles on v3.0 upgrades particularly an excellent
    article written by Sam Burgess on things to watch out for
    that has has been updated in light after all upgrades we have witnessed. 
    
    we also have articles and information on transferring customisations from
    the test system using Package Application and then using Restore
    Application on the newly upgraded production system which has proved
    successful for a number of customers.
    
    As always you can call us before the upgrade or as i'm sure you will
    during and after the upgrade (:==:) - or as it's you you may call me 
    or mail me directly since I am now once again restored to ELF as a listed 
    employee.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2496.2The author repliesSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Mar 31 1993 13:3931
    I hope Mr. Clinton is happy after the upgrade, and no, I am not
    available to support the upgrade as I am not technically allowed
    anywhere near the site (not being a U.S. citizen).
    
    Anyway, I hope that the book was useful (even as a paperweight).  My
    view is that you should get all the customizations working on the V3.0
    test system, just like you are doing now, then package them all up
    using CM.  You're now in position to restore the customizations when
    the target system is ready.
    
    To prepare the target, perform an upgrade as normal, making sure to
    move all the mandatory changes out of the way first.  Then delete all
    of the customizations from CM, and recompile the TXLs.  You should now
    have a V3.0 system that has access to all the data but is in an
    uncustomized state.  Exit from ALL-IN-1 to make sure that you're not
    picking anything up.  Of course, you also want to make sure that you've
    installed all the patch kits!
    
    Enter ALL-IN-1 again, and go into CM. Import the packaged saveset that
    you prepared on the pilot system, and then use the Restore Application
    functionality to unpack all of the customizations and receive them onto
    your system.  After the restore is finished you should find that all of
    the customized elements have been created from scratch in CM.  You must
    move them into the live area before users can access them.
    
    Differences in disk names shouldn't be a problem, because CM uses logical 
    names everywhere.
    
    Does this make sense?
    
    Tony