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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2392.0. "Unwanted new pages (form feeds?)" by ARDEV::CRAWFORD () Wed Mar 10 1993 20:54

	If one sends a report to ALL-IN-1 with <FF> (form feeds) allready
	in the report, how does one get ALL-IN-1 to NOT put in its own
	form feeds when printing the report. The only form feeds I want to
	see are the ones that I have put in creating the report. This 
	happends when printing to an LA75, an LPS40 , to disk, or even
	out to the terminal. How does one shut off ALL-IN-1 messing with
	the report.

	Thanks for any help you can give!!

	Rick
	
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2392.1ANGLIN::HARRISLet the party begin...Wed Mar 10 1993 21:337
    try this..
    
    if its a WPSPLUS document, after you press P hit next screen, PG
    (pagnigation setting). change the AUTO PAGINATE to N .
    
    ann
    
2392.2More information pleaseIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Mar 10 1993 22:2315
Is the report created within ALL-IN-1, and what editor or word processor is 
used to create it?

How is the report sent to the ALL-IN-1 systems?

When the report is received by the ALL-IN-1 system, what is its Data type 
and Handling.  The Data type and Handling will determine if ALL-IN-1 
formats the report during a print operation, and which formatter will be 
used.  

It sounds like ALL-IN-1 may be formatting the report when this is not 
required.


Richard
2392.3More info on form feedingARDEV::CRAWFORDFri Mar 12 1993 17:3622
Here is more info:

	The reports are originally created thru COBOL into VFC format
	files. If left in this format and the files are mailed to
	either VAXMAIL or ALL-IN-1, both of these mail functions
	reformat the files into variable lenght files with no more
	forms feeds in them, (ALL-IN-1 will put in its own form feeds).

	To alleviate the form feed problem we converted the files
	from VFC format to variable length format and put it manual
	form feeds where they were in the VFC format. So now, we can
	VAXMAIL these reports with out affecting what the report is
	supposed to look like with the proper form feeds in place.

	ALL-IN-1 will recognize the form feeds we put in there now,
	but the problem is that ALL-IN-1 still wants to put in it's
	own form feeds. I would like to have ALL-IN-1 not put in its
	own form feeds.

	Thanks for any help you can give,

	Rick
2392.4ASCII filesIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Fri Mar 12 1993 18:2317
From your description of how you create your reports they will be handled 
as ASCII files.

I'm assuming that when the reports are mailed to ALL-IN-1 users they end up
as ALL-IN-1 messages.  To investigate this further I need to know the
following information about the ALL-IN-1 message: 

    o	the Data type (will probably be ASCII)

    o	the Handling (will probably be blank)


This information can be displayed by selecting the message and doing 
Gold-V.


Richard
2392.5More infoARDEV::CRAWFORDMon Mar 15 1993 18:1319
>I'm assuming that when the reports are mailed to ALL-IN-1 users they end up
>as ALL-IN-1 messages.  To investigate this further I need to know the
>following information about the ALL-IN-1 message: 

	Yes, they are ALL-IN-1 messages.


>    o	the Data type (will probably be ASCII)

	Yes, the Data type is ASCII

>    o	the Handling (will probably be blank)

	And Yes, the handling is blank



	Rick
2392.6and more questionsIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Mon Mar 15 1993 18:4626
What version of ALL-IN-1 are you using?

It's probable that your system is set up so that ASCII messages are 
formatted using the WPS-PLUS formatter instead of the ALL-IN-1 ASCII 
formatter.  The ALL-IN-1 ASCII formatter will not insert additional form 
feeds, but the WPS-PLUS formatter will.

The formatter being used can be determined by doing the following:

    1.  Print the message and press NEXT SCREEN when the "Printing 
	Document" is displayed.

    2.  If the WPS-PLUS Formatter Print Settings menu is displayed then
	your system is set-up to format ASCII messages using the WPS-PLUS 
	formatter.


You can force the message to be formatted using the ASCII formatter by:

    1.	Selecting the message

    2	Use the U (Update) option and set the Handling to "ASCII FORMAT".



Richard
2392.8ASCII FORMATIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Mar 23 1993 19:215
The 'ASCII FORMAT' handling is new in ALL-IN-1 V3.0.  If your system is 
V2.4 then 'WPSPLUS NO FMT' is the best alternative, as you have discovered.


Richard