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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2366.0. "ALL-IN-1 v2.4 to v3.0 upgrade problem" by TPOVC::WADEJENG () Fri Mar 05 1993 08:55

Hi,

I need some help to solve some of my questions on ALL-IN-1 v3.0 installation
that I can't find on any documentation.

    When I upgraded ALL-IN-1 from v2.4 to v3.0, the log did indicated some
    (W)arning and (I)nformation messages as following that I believed they 
    should'nt cause any installation problems.

    %DELETE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for DISKNAME:[FILESPEC]FILENAME
    -RMS-E-FNF, file not found

    %VMSINSTAL-I-MOVEFILES, Files will now be moved to their target directories:
    %DELETE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSUPD.A1030]CM_DEFINE_DEV_LOGS.SCP;*
    -RMS-E-FNF, file not found

    ......
    ......
    ......

    Starting the WPS-PLUS batch queue for background LIST and SORT jobs
    %OA-W-SCPSYNTAX, Incorrect syntax in SCRIPT command:
    .remark	The next four commands should be repeated for each node on which
                    *
    %OA-W-SCPSYNTAX, Incorrect syntax in SCRIPT command:
    .remark	an execution queue should be created.  Substitute 'NODE1', 'NODE2',
                   *
    %OA-W-SCPSYNTAX, Incorrect syntax in SCRIPT command:
    .remark	Start cluster wide generic queue
                      *
    %OA-W-SNDJBC_OPERR, SEND_JBC operation error
    -JBC-E-STARTED, queue already started

    ......
    ......

    But when I tried to test it after I completed the manual post-installation,
    I first got three messages as below at the bottom line of the ALL-IN-1 main
    menu:

    Obsolete version of OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEMANAGER.FLC; - Continui
    Obsolete version of TMRA1$DISK:[TMRA1SERVICE.LIB_ENGLISH]TMRFLB.FLC; - Continuin
    opening SCRIPT file "OAX$LIB_TIDY:SYSTIDY$OAINI"

    Second, I tried to get into the management mode by entering the "MGT"
    command, I got the following error message: 

    Cannot find form "SM"

    and then the next management menu did not pop up for me to re-compile the
    form library which was obsolete shown in the previous messages.

    My system (TPOxxx) is integrated with USIS toolkit and TeaMRoute enhanced 
    application as well in my v2.4 verion, my guess is that I might have to 
    remove those toolkit(USIS, TeaMRoute) first because their version might not
    incorporated with ALL-IN-1 v3.0, and then install a newer version toolkit 
    later after I complete the installation of the ALL-IN-1 v3.0. 

Anyone who can help me with my guess?

Thanks,
Wade
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2366.1What did the CART Report say?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeFri Mar 05 1993 15:4415
    The error about delete-w-searchfail is well documented, and can be
    ignored. I expect the other error is because you are still using an old
    version of a script somewhere.
    
    It's normal for all .FLBs to require recompilation after an upgrade, we
    can't find them all to do this automatically.
    
    Did you run the CART before the upgrade?
    
    It would almost certainly have told you that you had a customised
    version of the DEFAUL form, which is still in use after the upgrade,
    and is calling the old version of the SM form, which isn't there
    anymore.
    
    Graham
2366.2Upgrade for both applicationsAIMTEC::WICKS_AI dreamt I found a working printer!Fri Mar 05 1993 16:179
    Wade,
    
    Also both SYSTIDY and TeamRoute will require upgrading - a version
    of SYSTIDY is available from the usual source but TeamRoute is not
    yet available for v3.0 (an FT kit may be available - see ABBOTT::EBD)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2366.3SYSTIDY/SYSUSER savesets pointerTPOVC::WADEJENGMon Mar 08 1993 06:336
    I plan on installing SYSTIDY/SYSUSER which can be incorporated with the
    ALL-IN-1 V3.0, but I need help to provide me the pointer of the name of
    savesets, node and directory path.
    
    I wish that my problems can be eliminated a bit after I upgrade the 
    SYSTIDY/SYSUSER. Thanks!
2366.4SYSTIDY not spoken hereAIMTEC::WICKS_AI dreamt I found a working printer!Mon Mar 08 1993 15:096
    SYSTIDY/SYSUSER can be obtained from your local MTS Manager or from
    the MTS Toolkit notesfile.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2366.5There is no such drawerTPOVC::WADEJENGThu Apr 01 1993 12:3314
Hi!

I completed the v3.0 upgrade from v2.4 and having a problem while I enter 
"EM" at the main menu:

		"There is no such drawer"

I know there is no drawer implementation in v2.4, but I need the pointer
to guide me to the proper menu (e.g. where to get on-line v3.0 Users Guide)
or solution against this problem.

Thank you in advance!

Wade
2366.6Empty languageUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTApril 28 : the return of MarcoThu Apr 01 1993 13:0210
    Wade,
    
    Looks like this accounts language field is empty.
    Did you see note 2239 ?
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
    
2366.7File Cabinet Server is not availableTPOVC::WADEJENGFri Apr 02 1993 11:4919
    Hi!

    I am suspecting that my problem was because of the errors in starting 
    local File Cabinet Server during installation, I got below message
    during installation:

	File Cabinet Server TPOM09::"73=" is not available
	The default MAIN drawers have NOT been seeded
	Please check the log file SYS$MANAGER:OAFC$SERVER.LOG

    I did enter "NCP> tell iosg show object OBJ_73 characteristic", and
    only got the OBJ_73 object number and process id in return from remote
    node IOSG, please help me with the Object Name, File/Id and User Id in
    defining the object 73 in order to start my File Cabinet Server.

    Thank you again!

    Wade
                         
2366.8Seeding did not workCHRLIE::HUSTONTue Apr 06 1993 15:489
    
    to start the FCS, go into the ALLIN1 account and go into the 
    MANAGER A1 account, do SM MFC MS STA
    
    If this does nto start the FCS, check the log file like the message
    in .6 says to. It sounds as if partition seeding did not work.
    
    --Bob
    
2366.9start FCS did not workTPOVC::WADEJENGWed Apr 07 1993 13:0247
Hi! Bob,

I did try your approach, but it did'nt start the FCS, I got the below logs:

===================== SYS$MANAGER:OAFC$SERVER.LOG ============================

 7-APR-1993 11:44:22.62  Server: TPOM09::"73="  
 Error: %RMS-E-DNF, directory not found  Message: CsiStart; 
 Error performing $parse of SDAF file


===================== OA$LOG:OAFC$SERVER_STARTUP.LOG =========================
 
$ set nover
%SYSTEM-W-NOTALLPRIV, not all requested privileges authorized


************************************************************************


%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 20200347
Server is being started:
		configuration_file: OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]TPOM09$SERVER73.
							       DAT;1
		process_name:       TPOM09$SRV73


************************************************************************


  ALLIN1       job terminated at  7-APR-1993 11:44:14.53

========================== SYS$MANAGER:OAFC$SERVER_ERROR.LOG ===================

Error opening OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC]OA$DAF_C.DAT

================================================================================

I did set the protection to all on the OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]TPOM09$SERVER
73.DAT after reviewing these log files; Also, I could not find the OA$DISK:
[OA$SHARC]OA$DAF_C.DAT file in response to the OAFC$SERVER_ERROR.LOG file, but 
I still failed again and got the same error LOG files. Could you do me some 
more help in this problem? 

Thanks.

Wade
2366.10Check some UAF-settings: UIC, ID, Flag...EEMELI::SALMINENI'm just a singer in an ALL-IN-1 bandWed Apr 07 1993 14:3039
	I don't know if the following solves your problem but it is
	worth to check the following details.

	I was doing an v2.4 -> v3.0 in a bank customer (typically) 
	starting at 6 pm on Friday ("and everything MUST work on Sunday
	evening!") and had the same error message when trying 
	to run ALL-IN-1 after failed post-installation.

>>>	The error message was due to failed partition seeding. <<<
	
	Detailed analysis uncovered the following errors:

	1. Due to improper Rightslist ID of the SYSTEM account, 
	   the Identifier OAFC$SYSMAN was not granted to 
	   account SYSTEM. Try the following:

		UAF> GRANT/ID SYSTEM OAFC$SYSMAN

	2. Because DEFAULT account had DISUSER-flag, this flag
	   was copied during upgrade to accounts OAFC$SERVER and 
	   OAFC$DEFAULT preventing FCS operating at all. Try
	   the following commands:

		UAF> MODIFY OAFC$SERVER  /FLAGS=NODISUSER /ACCESS /NOEXP
		UAF> MODIFY OAFC$DEFAULT /FLAGS=NODISUSER /ACCESS /NOEXP

	   And check also possible other access restrictions. 

	After the above mentioned corrections, and after running 
	the post-install procedure again, the error message was 
	still found when using some user accounts.
	
	3. Check that the user accounts have unique UIC:s and
	   Rightslist Identifier:s, if they don't have such,
	   the partition seeding will fail to them.

				HTH
						Hannu Salminen,
						T&C, Finland
2366.11Try thisCHRLIE::HUSTONWed Apr 07 1993 15:4324
    
    It looks like there are two problems,
    
    1) The FCS can't find one of the SDAF's
    
    2) The account starting the FCS (OAFC$SERVER if starting detached)
       does not have the privs.
    
    do what .10 suggests, then check the server start up command file and
    look for the section where it checks for needed privs, verify that
    oafc$server has these.
    
    If still in doubt do the followign:
    
    $ A1FCS :== $sys$system:oafc$server.exe
    $ a1fcs your_server_config_file
    
    This will start the server up in the foreground (rather than
    a detached process). Do this from an account that has alot of privs
    like SYSTEM or ALLIN1, see what this does, it will log any errors
    to the screen.
    
    --Bob
    
2366.12Empty Mail Area with missing SDAF ?UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTAjax, Ajax, Ajax...Thu Apr 08 1993 08:2218
    re.9                     
    
>Error opening OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC]OA$DAF_C.DAT
    
    Perhaps this system has an empty (unused) Mail Area. 
    
    Use SM MMA to check wether mail area OA$SHARC does exist.
    Perhaps it was empty/unused and someone just deleted the
    SDAF. Try SELecting OA$SHAREC. If the Delete option (which checks
    for emptyness of the area) cannot find
    the SADF, use SM_SDAF_MASTER to remove the record. I am not sure
    wether FCS "knows" about mail areas but I expect it uses the
    ALL-IN-1 data file instead of the logicals. So you don't
    have to run the A1V30START.COM.... 
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    Jan

2366.14Why .13 is hiddenAIMTEC::WICKS_AOscar the Grouch is an Optimist!Fri Apr 09 1993 16:077
    The previous note is set hidden because it contained an account name
    and password of a privileged account which I believe is against
    normal DIGITAL security policies
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2366.15Reposted minus passwordIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Tue Apr 13 1993 10:2450
                <<< IOSG::LIB0:[NOTES$LIBRARY]ALL-IN-1.NOTE;3 >>>
                     -< ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference >-
================================================================================
Note 2366.13          ALL-IN-1 v2.4 to v3.0 upgrade problem             13 of 14
TPOVC::WADEJENG                                      42 lines   9-APR-1993 12:24
                 -< ERROR STARTING SERVER TPOM09::"73=" again >-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi!

I did try the following:

	   UAF> GRANT/ID OAFC$SYSMAN SYSTEM
	   UAF> MODIFY OAFC$SERVER /FALGS=NODISUSER /ACCESS /NOEXP
	   UAF> MODIFY OAFC$DEFAULT /FALGS=NODISUSER /ACCESS /NOEXP

and then ran the postinstallation procedure again: OA$LIB:A1$POSTINSTALL.COM,
but I still failed on ERROR STARTING SERVER TPOM09::"73=".. etc.

I even tried to do the following:

	$ a1fcs :== $sys$system:oafc$server.exe
	$ a1fcs oa$data_share:tpom09$server73.dat (which is my server configu-
						   ration file)

but, I ended up with the following messages:

 9-APR-1993 19:03:08.11  Server: TPOM09::"73="  Error: %RMS-E-DNF, 
directory not found  Message: CsiStart; Error performing $parse of SDAF file
Error opening OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC]OA$DAF_C.DAT
%RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
-NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000

They all looked alike with the messages I got in .9.

Can someone please log into my system:
	Node: 		TPOM09 
	Account: 	ALLIN1 
	Password: 	********* [password deleted by moderator]
have a close look and please try not to delete any files; I would be very 
appreciated if I can get the problems fixed with someone's help.

The log files for your reference:
	TPOM09::SYS$MANAGER:OAFC$SERVER.LOG
	TPOM09::SYS$MANAGER:OAFC$SERVER_ERROR.LOG
	TPOM09::OA$LOG:OAFC$SERVER_STARTUP.LOG

Good luck to you and then me!

Wade
    
2366.16OA$SHARC is not setup correctlyIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Tue Apr 13 1993 10:3476
    
    	You seem to have a half-created OA$SHARC which is annoying the
    	File Cab server (seems reasonable to me). I'll leave it to
    	someone else to guess how this happened and suggest a fix.
    	Here's what I did:
    
    Username: ALLIN1
    Password:
            Welcome to VAX/VMS version V5.5-2 on node TPOM09
        Last interactive login on Tuesday, 13-APR-1993 11:32
        Last non-interactive login on Tuesday, 13-APR-1993 14:00
    
                You have 5 new Mail messages.
    
    %SYSTEM-W-NOTALLPRIV, not all requested privileges authorized
    M09 A1> sho log oa$disk
       "OA$DISK" = "$1$DIA1:" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
    M09 A1> dir oa$disk:[OA$SHARC]
    %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC]*.*;* as input
    -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
    -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
    M09 A1> sho log oa$sh*
    
    (LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)
    
    (LNM$JOB_80921E80)
    
    (LNM$GROUP_000001)
    
    (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)
    
      "OA$SHARC" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC]"
      "OA$SHARC1" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC.SHARC1]"
      "OA$SHARC_HIGH" = "   1"
      "OA$SHARC_LOW" = "   1"
      "OA$SHARE" = "OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARED_E]"
      "OA$SHARE1" = "OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARE1]"
      "OA$SHARE10" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE10]"
      "OA$SHARE11" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE11]"
      "OA$SHARE12" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE12]"
      "OA$SHARE13" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE13]"
      "OA$SHARE14" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE14]"
      "OA$SHARE15" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE15]"
      "OA$SHARE16" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE16]"
      "OA$SHARE17" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE17]"
      "OA$SHARE18" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE18]"
      "OA$SHARE19" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE19]"
      "OA$SHARE2" = "OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARE2]"
      "OA$SHARE20" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE20]"
      "OA$SHARE21" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE21]"
      "OA$SHARE22" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE22]"
      "OA$SHARE23" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE23]"
      "OA$SHARE24" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE24]"
      "OA$SHARE25" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE25]"
      "OA$SHARE26" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE26]"
      "OA$SHARE27" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE27]"
      "OA$SHARE28" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE28]"
      "OA$SHARE29" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE29]"
      "OA$SHARE3" = "OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARE3]"
      "OA$SHARE30" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE30]"
      "OA$SHARE4" = "OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARE4]"
      "OA$SHARE5" = "OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARE5]"
      "OA$SHARE6" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE6]"
      "OA$SHARE7" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE7]"
      "OA$SHARE8" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE8]"
      "OA$SHARE9" = "OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE9]"
      "OA$SHARE_HIGH" = "  30"
      "OA$SHARE_LOW" = "  11"
    
    (DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)
    M09 A1> dir oa$sharc:
    %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening OA$DISK:[OA$SHARC]*.*;* as input
    -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
    -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
    M09 A1> lo
      ALLIN1       logged out at 13-APR-1993 16:35:16.41
2366.17Further...IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeTue Apr 13 1993 11:5511
    There's obviously a record in the Shared DAF master, which is causing
    this logical to get defined. From the Manager's account, call up the
    form SM_SDAF_MASTER and see what records are in it. You might want to
    delete the duff one for DAF C, and then rerun A1V30START to get the
    logicals defined. Actually, you'll need to *DEASSIGN* that one manually
    of course!
    
    If there are any shared area logicals for DAF C, they'll be defined by
    records in the form SM_SHARED_DIR_MASTER. Remove them in a similar way.
    
    Graham
2366.18EMHEAD compiling errorTPOVC::WADEJENGMon Apr 26 1993 05:1220
    Hi!
    
    I did get my "MAIN drawer missing" problem fixed by creating a mail 
    area-SHARC which corresponding to the OA$SHARC logical and copied
    the oa$sdaf_e.dat to oa$sdaf_c.dat, then did "sm mfc ms sta"
    accordingly, and could get to the EM form impressively. Thank you for 
    your helps.
                                                      
    But, there was another problem raised - "error encountered compiling
    form EMHEAD" while I tried to create a new mail, the first panel I got
    was the panel for editing the input content but not the message header
    panel for inputing the sender/receiver information.
 
    I did try "cm sel" the "EMHEAD" form, and "cm mla" to mark to move to 
    live area, followed by "cm ma pme" to process marked elements, but I 
    still could not eliminate the EMHEAD compiling error; 
    
    Can someone help me with this problem? Thank you in advance.
    
    Wade
2366.19What was in GOLD/W after error?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeMon Apr 26 1993 10:380
2366.20EMHEAD error reply againTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Apr 27 1993 03:547
    Hi! Graham,
    
    Could you please resend me your reply (2366.19) regarding my problem in
    "error encountered compiling form EMHEAD", since the 2366.19 is a empty
    reply. Thank you again!
    
    Wade 
2366.21EMHEAD form setIOSG::HARDIEIn a world where the sun burns cold !Tue Apr 27 1993 11:326
    
    Have you also moved the EMHEAD2 form to live??
    
    Neil
    ~~~~
    
2366.22.19 only needed a title! More explanation...IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeTue Apr 27 1993 14:1616
    Re .20
    
    .19 was supposed to be empty, the wuestion was in the title!
    
    If you get an error about compiling a form, GOLD/W normally tells you
    what the mising symbol, form or syntax error was.
    
    Most commonly, as .21 sggests it's because you have a customised form
    and not all the members of the form set are in the same library.
    
    Another reason can be that you have an old (i.e. previous version of
    ALL-IN-1) of a form in the site library, and it's using a message
    symbol that we've removed in the current version. But the CART should
    have told you about that.
    
    Graham
2366.23more EMHEAD form compiling error TPOVC::WADEJENGWed May 05 1993 03:4432
Hi!

I am puzzling why I am still getting "Error encountered compiling from
EMHEAD" while I am trying to exit from creating a new mail. 

First, I entered the following commands to do the comparison:

  base area:
  $ fms/dir/full oa$lib:oaform/form=emhead
  $ fms/dir/full oa$lib:oaform/form=emhead2

  live area:
  $ fms/dir/full oa$lib:siteoaform/form=emhead
  $ fms/dir/full oa$lib:siteoaform/form=emhead2

I got exactly the same form with the same number of bytes and creation
date, which means there is no difference in these forms between the "live
area" and "base area".

Further, I entered GOLD/W at the error stage, I got the below information:

%OA-E-FLCCOMERR, Error encountered compiling form EMHEAD
-OA-E-FLCFRMSET, .FORM_SET form EMHEAD2 not found

But I did find the EMHEAD2 in both oa$lib:oaform.flb and oa$lib:siteoaform.
flb,  how come the message said ".FORM_SET form EMHEAD2 not found"?

Question I have is that how can I get to the "Message Header" form in stead 
of the editing form directly as the first panel? 
Thank you again!

Wade
2366.24Can we use ALL-IN-1 to do this?AIMTEC::WICKS_Aon the Streets of San FranciscoWed May 05 1993 04:2416
    wade,
    
    I must admit i'm a little confused but that's because I see you using
    FMS commands directly at VMS level. 
    
    could you please go into ALL-IN-1 go to CM and check that when you do
    an index you see that both EMHEAD and EMHEAD2 are there and both have
    the live flag set to Y. If so can you then so to the CSZ menu and
    PCF the form-library SITEOAFORM hopefully without errors.
    
    I'd feel more comfortable if I saw you doing it inside ALL-IN-1
    the way God or at least the relevant developer intended (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2366.25form compiling error still thereTPOVC::WADEJENGThu May 06 1993 07:4321
Hi! Andrew,

Thank you for your note reply first!

Please excuse me for confusing you about my steps in trouble-shooting.
I did enter "cm i" and got both EMHEAD and EMHEAD2 in the index list
with "FRM" as type, "ENGLISH" as area, "Free" as status, and "Y" as
live flag. After I entered "sm csz pcf" to pre-compile oa$lib:siteoaform
and got it pre-compiled with an message as follows:

Symbol OA$_TM_SRE_NUM_OF_WEEK not found for form TMSRE_STYLE3

But, I thought this message won't harm any of the ALL-IN-1 operation.
Then, I invoked ALL-IN-1 again, and entered "em c", I still got to
the editing mode directly, the "Message Header" panel still missing
and I won't be able to enter the receiver name and address. 

Can you think of any other reason to cause this problem? Is it could
be the incorrect customization management search orders setting?

Wade
2366.26TraceAIMTEC::WICKS_Aon the Streets of San FranciscoThu May 06 1993 09:208
    Wade,
    
    It's time for trace (GOLD %) and please don't post the whole of the log
    here just the relevant (small) extract of it or a pointer to it.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2366.27need more help on compiling errorTPOVC::WADEJENGFri May 07 1993 09:2340
Hi! Andrew,

I did press "GOLD %" to get a1trace.log, and I post the relevant extract of
it as below:

				.......
				.......
				.......

![IO]     Releasing record locks on CAB$PDAF
![FUNC]   Function: FORM, Cmd line: EMHEAD
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: FORM            EMHEAD
![FORM]   Form EMHEAD dispatching, Command: 
![FLOW]   Current field index: 6. Form context follows:
![FLOW]   Form Name                      Dsab      Workspace   Prior Dsab
![FLOW]   EMC                            0030A3D8  0004603C    00000000
!   
![IVP]    Form: EMHEAD
![FORM]   Form EMHEAD starting
![FORM]   Form EMHEAD opening
![FORM]   Form EMHEAD compiling
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGERROR, %OA-E-FLCCOMERR, Error encountered compiling fo
!               rm EMHEAD                         
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGERROR, -OA-E-FLCFRMSET, .FORM_SET form EMHEAD2 not fou
!               nd
![FLOW]   Unable to find Form EMHEAD
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGERROR, %OA-E-FLCCOMERR, Error encountered compiling fo
!               rm ![FUNC]   Function: EDIT, Cmd line: "[.MSG]ZURBDYEFF.WPL                        
!                                    ","",,"WPSPLUS"

				.......
				.......
				.......

I wish this would lead you some direction of my "encountered form EMHEAD 
compiling error" problem. If you need more data in my log file, please
look at the TPOM09::OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.MGR]A1TRACE.LOG. I set it readable to
world. Thank you for your help!

Wade
2366.28What I see.AIMTEC::WICKS_Aon the Streets of San FranciscoFri May 07 1993 17:4210
    Wade,
    
    sorry but I can't give this much more time (I have a day job you know!)
    but look at the [FLOW] it says it can't even find form EMHEAD.
    
    Have you called your CSC?
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
2366.29EMHEAD2 around?SIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindSat May 08 1993 21:556
    Actually, it looks as if form EMHEAD2 can't be found in the library
    where EMHEAD is being taken from.  Have you moved all elements of the
    EMHEAD form set into the live area?  You may still have EMHEAD2 in the
    development library.
    
    Tony
2366.30EMHEAD did reside in live areaTPOVC::WADEJENGTue May 11 1993 11:1624
Hi! Tony,

Thank you first for your reply to my ALL-IN-1 error encountered compiling
form EMHEAD problem. I did positively move both EMHEAD and EMHEAD2 from 
DEVELOP.FLB to live area (SITEOAFORM.FLB), and I checked the status by 
entering "cm i", I got the following information displayed:

			Index of Site Element
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  No.   Name         			Type    Area      Status   Live 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1     EMHEAD				FRM	ENGLISH	  Free	    Y
  2     EMHEAD2				FRM	ENGLISH	  Free	    Y

which meaned that EMHEAD and EMHEAD2 did reside in live area, was it 
because I only had one single mail area - OA$SHARE or something wrong 
went on in setting Customization Management search orders? 

I am the one responsible for upgrading V2.4 to v3.0 for the entire Asia 
region, I am wondering that my region have people would help me with my 
problem. But, if you happen to know anyone in Asia region might have the 
answer, please let me know. Thank you for your tiem and effort.

Wade
2366.31Check where we are finding the forms...IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeTue May 11 1993 14:559
    Call up form EMHEAD with the FORM function:
    
    	<FORM EMHEAD
    
    Then do CTRL/N to see what form library it's being found from. Repeat
    this for EMHEAD2, in case you have another copy of either of them
    coming from some other .FLB.
    
    Graham
2366.32error in finding form EMHEADTPOVC::WADEJENGFri May 14 1993 03:1716
Hi! Graham,

I tried "<form emhead" command and got the following message:

Error encountered compiling form EMHEAD

Then, I tried "<form emhead2" again, and got the following message:

Error encountered while form EMHEAD2 was current

I pressed CTRL/N , and the form was "EMC", library was 
"OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEOAFORM.FLB", they seemed OK
to me. Graham, is there a ALL-IN-1 error message guide or trouble-shooting
menu around? if it does, please notice me the menu title. Thanks!

Wade
2366.33And in GOLD/W?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeFri May 14 1993 15:377
    Were both the forms in the *SAME* library? Since they're in the site
    library, they obviously been customised, so you should make sure that
    any message symbols etc. are correct.
    
    What error details, if any, do you get in GOLD/W after each error?
    
    Graham
2366.34EMHEAD and EMHEAD2 errorsTPOVC::WADEJENGMon May 17 1993 11:1942
Hi! Graham,

I tried "<form emhead" command and got the following error message:

Error encountered compiling form EMHEAD

and I did GOLD/W I got:

%OA-E-FLCCOMERR, Error encountered compiling form EMHEAD
-OA-E-FLCFRMSET, .FORM_SET form EMHEAD2 not found

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Then, I tried "<form emhead2" again, and got the following error message:

"Error encountered while form EMHEAD2 was current"
 
and I did GOLD/W I got:

%OA-E-EIF, Error encountered while form EMHEAD2 was current
-OA-E-NPARSE, Error parsing:
 ^ Error
-OA-E-FORMTYPE, Invalid type in form

Again, I did enter "cm i", I got the following information displayed as
in note .30.

			Index of Site Element
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  No.   Name         			Type    Area      Status   Live 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1     EMHEAD				FRM	ENGLISH	  Free	    Y
  2     EMHEAD2				FRM	ENGLISH	  Free	    Y

I belive that the above information showing both the EMHEAD and MEHEAD2
reside in live area (OA$LIB:SITEOAFORM.FLB), and their status are free.
I don't know what's wrong with the type "FRM" of EMHEAD2 would cause
the invalid type in form? 

Thanks!

Wade
2366.35I'm done!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeMon May 17 1993 18:2610
    Um, I've misled you slightly. In fact, because EMHEAD2 doesn't have any
    named data in it, you will always get the error if you call it
    directly. BTW the form type error it's talking about is something like
    ENTRY, MENU etc. But of course it finds an "error" because there is
    *no* form type.
    
    OK, I have no more ideas. You must be getting one or other of the forms
    from some other library somehow, regardless of what CM says!
    
    Graham
2366.36FIND_FORM returns?IOSG::HULINIan Hulin, IOSG: REO, DTN 830-6141Mon May 24 1993 11:0121
   Wade,

   What does FIND_FORM return you for EMHEAD and EMHEAD2?  Try something like
   the following:

   <FIND_FORM(FORM="EMHEAD",OUT=#WADEJ_EMHEAD)\GET #WADEJ_EMHEAD_STAT = OA$STATUS

   <FIND_FORM(FORM="EMHEAD2",OUT=#WADEJ_EMHEAD2)\GET #WADEJ_EMHEAD2_STAT = OA$STATUS

   <EXAMINE(SYMBOLS="#*EMHEAD*")

   This should at least tell you where the forms being used are actually being
   picked up from.  The statuses will also tell you whether they are being
   picked up form the forms cache or the library.

   Hope this helps,

   Cheers,

   Ian

2366.37If your forms are in the wrong live locationsSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindMon May 24 1993 11:5831
    Also check the live disk location field in CM.  
    
    1. Select the form
    
    2. Type:
    
    <GET CM$SITELOG.LIVE_DISK_LOCATION[$CM_KEY]
    
    If the two forms have different live disk locations then we have the
    answer.  Forms in a form set must be in the same library.
    
    To solve the problem (if this is what it is).
    
    1. Move the form that isn't in OA$LIB:SITEOAFORM.LIB back into the
    development area (CM RFL).  Remember to Process marked elements.
    
    2. Select the form.
    
    3. Change the live disk location field:
    
    <WRITE CHANGE CM$SITELOG %KEY = $CM_KEY, LIVE_DISK_LOCATION =
          "OA$SITE_LIB_ENGLISH:SITEOAFORM.FLB"
    
    (or blank out the live disk location and then do a MLA, in which case
     CM will invite you to enter a new live location)
    
    4. Move the form into the live area.
    
    5. Test (and hopefully succeed)
    
    Tony
2366.38find_form approachTPOVC::WADEJENGFri May 28 1993 07:5631
Hi! Ian,

I did enter "<find_form(form="emhead",out=....)" as you suggested, and I
got the following messages:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
			EXAMINE(SYMBOLS="#*EMHEAD*")

Local Symbols:
--------------
#emhead_stat			1
#emhead				OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.MGR]USER.FLB

#emhead2_stat			1
#emhead2			OA$DISK:[ALLIN!.SITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEOAFORM.FLB
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------	

It seemed like they were picked up from the different library? If this is the
reson cause my problem, please tell me the solution of it.

In addition, I tried "<get cm$sitelog.live_disk_location[$cm_key]" as 
Tony suggested in .37, but both forms selected returned the identical library: 

OA$SITE_LIB_LLV:SITEOAFORM.FLB,

therefore, I didn't go any further to fix the problem.


Thank you for all your time and efforts.

Wade
2366.39At last - We've found it!!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeFri May 28 1993 12:1111
    OK, it's now simple. The Manager has a private copy of the form in
    their USER form library, but doesn't have the other half of the form
    set.
    
    Go to FD, select the form in the user library and delete it. Now the
    problem should go away, since both halves of the form will come from
    the SITE library.
    
    Repeat the steps in the previous note to be sure.
    
    Graham
2366.40SYSTIDY/SYSUSER and Patch v3.0-1 conflictsTPOVC::WADEJENGMon May 31 1993 08:4446
Hi! Graham and all the others:

Thank you for all your time and efforts contributed on my problem.
The problem now has been eliminated after I enter "FD", then select 
"EMHEAD" and delete it.

I am in the progress to update the TeamRoute from v1.0 to v1.1,
as instructed in the installation menu, I need to install ALL-IN-1
v3.0-1 patch kit first, and I did finish the installation procedure,
but then after I did "relink", I got a bunch of linking object is
not found in certain libraries, or duplicate objects are found.
Thus, my relink was failed and I did not get a new OA$MAIN.EXE created.

I consulted to one of my colleagues who had done ALL-IN-1 installation 
before. He told me that might be because my current ALL-IN-1 has USIS
kit in it (SYSUSER, SYSTIDY), and these kits created some new object
modules; renamed, or re-arranged some existing object modules in different
order that were resided or used to reside in certain defaulted relinking 
libraries, then caused the duplicate or modules not found problem. 

I listed the A1_ECO001030.B saveset listing as below (object only):

object modules:  (Part 1)

  FINDFILE.OBJ, OA$SM_FCVR.OBJ, OA$SM_FCVR_TABLE_RTN.OBJ, OA$SM_MESS.OBJ, 
  OAARC.OBJ, OACABA.OBJ, OACABF.OBJ, OACABH.OBJ, OACABR.OBJ, OACHECK.OBJ, 
  OACMD.OBJ, OACMF.OBJ, OACMMA.OBJ, OACOPY.OBJ, OAEMDF1.OBJ, OAEMDF2.OBJ, 
  OAEMDF3.OBJ, OAEMDF4.OBJ, OAEMDF5.OBJ, OAEMDF8.OBJ, OAFBT.OBJ, OAFCF.OBJ, 
  OAFORMATTER.OBJ, OAIO.OBJ, OAMTIBLD.OBJ, OAMTIDLV.OBJ, OAMTILOC.OBJ, 
  OAMTIREM.OBJ, OAUIC.OBJ, 

object libraries: (part 2)

 OAFC$SERVER.OLB, WPAPRINT.OLB, WPAPRINTBG.OLB
 
I have run the "Deinstallation" on ALL-IN-1 v3.0-1 patch kit; can someone help
me to locate which object module in part 1 should replace/insert to the object 
library in part 2? Then I can do the patch v3.0-1 relink on those modules in 
part 1 specifically by replacing them in the current existing library in part
2 instead of re-arrange, rename or even delete them. This way, I might be
able to eliminate the conflicts between SYSUSER/SYSTIDY and ALL-IN-1 patch
v3.0-1.

Best Regards,

Wade

2366.41Ask the USIS developers?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeTue Jun 01 1993 09:329
    Wade,
    
    There's a conference about the USIS kit somewhere, may be a pointer in
    4.* here, perhaps they'll know about this problem.
    
    Graham
    
    PS Please don't post big object module listings like in your previous
    reply, most of which I've now removed. Thanks.
2366.42Index of shared directoriesTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Jun 15 1993 13:2343
    Hi!
    
    I have a question about the shared directories management.
    
    First, I show logical on OA$SHARE_LOW and OA$SHARE_HIGH, I got "1" 
    and "10" respectively, then I do dir on OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE]*.dir, I
    got the following output:
    
    share1.dir;1  ----
    share2.dir;1      |
    ..........        |---> I only have share1.dir to share10.dir available
    ..........        |
    share10.dir;1 ----
    
    But, in ALL-IN-1, I enter "mgt mma isd", I got the follows:
    
                                   Shared Directories
     (Selections: 0  )                                    (New messages: 0  )
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
       No.  Logical      Directory                         Files    Size
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
     > 1    OA$SHARE1    OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SHARE1]               5      24
       2    OA$SHARE10   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE10]           99     774
       3    OA$SHARE11   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE11]            0       0
       4    OA$SHARE12   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE12]            0       0
       ....................  
       11   OA$SHARE19   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE19]            0       0 
       13   OA$SHARE20   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE20]            0       0
       ....................
       22   OA$SHARE20   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE29]            0       0
       24   OA$SHARE30   OA$DISK:[OA$SHARE.SHARE30]            0       0
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    The output means that I have more than share1 to share10 directories
    available, please give a pointer on how to make this shared directories
    consistent between physical disk directories and ALL-IN-1 "ISD"(index of
    shared directories).
    
    Thanks,
    
    
    Wade
2366.43<FORM SM_SHARED_DIR_MASTERIOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeFri Jun 18 1993 12:026
    A quick examination of the named data reveals that the shared areas are
    referenced by the form SM_SHARED_DIR_MASTER. Call this form up and
    delete the unwanted entries. Make sure the directories really don't
    exist first!
    
    Graham
2366.44ALL-IN-1 PostScript Printing issueTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Jun 22 1993 05:3535
Hi!

I have done a test on the ALL-IN-1 v3.0 for PostScript data printing 
function, and it ended up with failure, printout listed a bunch of 
PostScript commands and control codes, I am not sure was this bacause 
the set up of my printer in ALL-IN-1 was incorrect or there was some
other setup that I missed.

My printer is PrintServer20, and my set up in ALL-IN-1 are as follows:

=============================================================================
System Manager Account                                        Tue 22-Jun-1993
                             Manage Site Printers
                              Site Printers Master

  Printer Name:              LPS70$POST
  Description:               LPS70 printer for PostScript
  Format Printer Type:       PS
  Destination Printer Type:  LPS20
  Print queue:               LPS70$POST
  Printer level:             LPS20-PS
  Comments:                  LPS70 printer for PostScript
==========================================================================

I have done "dt sv" to save this mail in VMS file for your review, the 
filename is in tpovc::[wadejeng]pstest.txt which has text data at front 
and followed by a PostScript data as a attachment.

The first, I need your help to look into my setup of the printer, the
second, I like to know do I have to install DCPS (DECprint Supervior)
in order to print a ALL-IN-1 mail with mixed text and PostScript format?

Thank you for your help!

Wade
2366.45Some questionsIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Jun 22 1993 12:5710
Re: .44

1.  What do you mean by 'printout listed a bunch of PostScript commands and
    control codes'?  Was the whole PostScript file printed, or was the file 
    interpreted as PostScript but some PostScript errors were reported?

2.  Can you print documents to the same printer destination?


Richard
2366.48OA$DAF_E.DAT reverage?TPOVC::WADEJENGFri Dec 31 1993 09:1321
    Hi! all,
    
    We have a problem resulted from the OA$DAF_E.DAT corrupted, after the
    corruption, we tried to re-convert the OA$DAF_E.DAT but failed to do
    it.
    
    Now, the system we have that have problem in performing OAMTIMAIL task,
    the OAMTIMAIL actually execute "DO OA$LIB:REFILE" statements and we got
    the following message in return:
    
    %OA_I_CAB_CANT_FIND	   the current file cabinet document can not be found
    			   MAIL MTI_FETCH_REMOTE
    
    and the "DO OA$LIB:REFILE" seemed to fall into a in-finitive loop with
    no more I/O increase after it hit certain I/O number.
    
    Can someone address me a pointer of the OA$DAF_E.DAT recover procedure?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Wade 
2366.49GIDDAY::SETHIOh what a feeling .....Sat Jan 01 1994 03:5012
    Hi Wade,
    
    What type of corruption do you get ?  Do an $ analyze/rms/check
    OA$DAF_E.DAT, depending on the type of corruption your local CSC may
    have a tool to fix the OA$DAF_E.DAT.
    
    Note - the tool is *NOT* to be given to the customer as we charge for
    recovery of corrupted files.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
2366.50Analysis of OA$OAF_E.DAT corruptionTPOVC::WADEJENGFri Jan 07 1994 10:2891
Hi! Sunil,

The following attachment is the analysis data of OA$DAF_E.DAT for your 
reference, I like to have the pointer to instruct me how to recover the
corrupted OA$DAF_E.DAT file.


Check RMS File Integrity                      5-JAN-1994 09:18:36.97   Page 1
$1$DUA37:[TMP]OA$DAF_E.DAT;1


FILE HEADER

	File Spec: $1$DUA37:[TMP]OA$DAF_E.DAT;1
	File ID: (580,18,0)
	Owner UIC: [11,100]
	Protection:  System: RWED, Owner: RWED, Group: RE, World: RWED
	Creation Date:   22-OCT-1993 20:41:55.45
	Revision Date:    5-JAN-1994 00:44:17.52, Number: 22074
	Expiration Date: none specified
	Backup Date:     none posted
	Contiguity Options:  none
	Performance Options: none
	Reliability Options: none
	Journaling Enabled:  none


RMS FILE ATTRIBUTES

	File Organization: indexed
	Record Format: variable
	Record Attributes:   carriage-return
	Maximum Record Size: 2000
	Blocks Allocated: 258072, Default Extend Size: 100
	Bucket Size: 4
	File Monitoring: disabled
	Global Buffer Count: 0


FIXED PROLOG

	Number of Areas: 1, VBN of First Descriptor: 2
	Prolog Version: 3

AREA DESCRIPTOR #0 (VBN 2, offset %X'0000')

	Bucket Size: 4
	Reclaimed Bucket VBN: 0
	Current Extent Start: 257971, Blocks: 102, Used: 72, Next: 258043
	Default Extend Quantity: 100
	Total Allocation: 258072

KEY DESCRIPTOR #0 (VBN 1, offset %X'0000')

	Index Area: 0, Level 1 Index Area: 0, Data Area: 0
	Root Level: 4
	Index Bucket Size: 4, Data Bucket Size: 4
	Root VBN: 110935
	Key Flags:
		(0)  KEY$V_DUPKEYS    0
		(3)  KEY$V_IDX_COMPR  0
		(4)  KEY$V_INITIDX    0
		(6)  KEY$V_KEY_COMPR  0
		(7)  KEY$V_REC_COMPR  1
	Key Segments: 1

Check RMS File Integrity                      5-JAN-1994 09:18:39.06   Page 2
$1$DUA37:[TMP]OA$DAF_E.DAT;1


	Key Size: 65
	Minimum Record Size: 65
	Index Fill Quantity: 2048, Data Fill Quantity: 2048
	Segment Positions:       0
	Segment Sizes:          65
	Data Type: string
	Name: "DAF_KEY"
	First Data Bucket VBN: 3
***  VBN 4965:  Record at offset %X'0343' has a missing or illegal RRV.
***  VBN 257163:  Next-bucket pointer out of range of file.
Unrecoverable error encountered in structure of file.


The analysis uncovered 3 errors.


ANALYZE/RMS/CHECK/OUT=1.RPT OA$DAF_E.DAT;1
 
Regards,

Wade
2366.53GIDDAY::SETHIOh what a feeling .....Mon Jan 10 1994 22:4841
    Hi Wade,
    
    Re note .51 was lost due to diskquota problems.
    
    I guess you have tried doing a convert/fdl ?  If not can you try doing
    the convert to see if you can get around the problem ?
    
    I have two tools available that *MAY FIX* the corruption note I will
    *NOT GUARANTEE* anything.  If the SDAF is badly corrupted you may have
    to restore from backup, the problem you have reported has/may not have
    been caused by the upgrade.  It is highly unlikely that the upgrade
    corrupted the SDAF.
    
    Firstly check with your local CSC to see if they have any tools
    available to fix corrupted files.  If the OA group does not have the
    tool than check with the OpenVMS group.  Basically the tools I have
    available will patch the corrupted records, this means that the data
    will be lost from the SDAF.  
    
    Digital charge for this service and we have to make it clear to the
    customer that we will *TRY* to recover as much data as possible. 
    Digital do not give any guarantees that the data files will be restored
    fully or partly.  Data integrity is the responsibility of the customer
    and *NOT* the responsibility of Digital.  I have to make this clear so
    that you or the customer is left in no doubt and *REAL EXPECTATIONS*
    are set before you make any commitments.
    
    I will expect you to firstly contact your local CSC and *IF THEY DON'T*
    have the tools available, I will make them available.  On the
    understanding that these tools are Digitals property and that they
    cannot be given to the customer.  As soon as you have "fixed" the
    problem you must do a delete/erase of the tools from the customers
    system.  Please contact me off-line and I will give you instructions on
    how to use the tools.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
    
    PS - It's slightly hot here in Sydney.  They certainly have big BBQ's
    Downunder.
2366.54ALL-IN-1 logical definition issueTPOVC::WADEJENGFri Jan 14 1994 09:4728
    Hi!

    I have some issues addressed from some other sites' ALL-IN-1
    upograde as below (our region is doing ALL-IN-1 v3.0, SYSTIDY v2.0,
    SYSUSER v2.0, and A1-patch 3.0-1 upgrade):

    Q. Why after all the installation done, some ALL-IN-1 logicals point
       to the wrong directories? and how to fix it?

       e.g. OA$BUILD_SHARE logical pointed to OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SOURCE] but 
	    not OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SOURCE_SHARE]

    Q. Does TeamLinks v2.0 needs to incorporate with ALL-IN-1 v3.0a ? 
       we have ALL-IN-1 v3.0 and ALL-IN-1 patch v3.0-1 but we failed in 
       installing TeamLinks v2.0. This is a TeamLinks fresh installation 
       on our sites.

    Q. One user has TeamRoute routing message problem, both II(Inbox), IP
       (Pending) are empty, but system keep poping up a message:

         TMR  TeamRoute  ( 2 new routing items )

       I tried "mgt mm ruc" to reset user unread counter, but it did'nt help.


    Cheers,
    
    Wade 
2366.55TeamLinks answerIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour WinPad!Fri Jan 14 1994 10:5518
>    Q. Does TeamLinks v2.0 needs to incorporate with ALL-IN-1 v3.0a ? 
>       we have ALL-IN-1 v3.0 and ALL-IN-1 patch v3.0-1 
    
    	TeamLinks V2.0 requires ALL-IN-1 V3.0A + TeamLinks Connection
    	Package V2.0 (TLC V2.0 - on the same tape as V3.0A).
    
>	but we failed in 
>       installing TeamLinks v2.0. This is a TeamLinks fresh installation 
>       on our sites.
    
    	Not having V3.0A CAN NOT prevent TeamLinks installing. This is
    	a different problem, try asking in WINDOWS_OFFICE.
    
    	If you meant to say TeamLinks Connection Package V2.0, then yes,
    	you need V3.0A for TLC V2.0, and it won't install without it.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
2366.56TeamRoute answerIOSG::MAURICEI left my heart in AlcatrazFri Jan 14 1994 13:0016
    Q. One user has TeamRoute routing message problem, both II(Inbox), IP
       (Pending) are empty, but system keep poping up a message:

         TMR  TeamRoute  ( 2 new routing items )
    
    A. If the user does TMR II are there any items? If not then check that
       they have not been refiled to another folder. You can reset the
       count by:
    
    	<cab decrement "TMR"
    	
       (twice if the count is 2)
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
2366.57Logicals definition errorTPOVC::WADEJENGMon Jan 17 1994 02:4427
purg 2.txt
    Hi! Paul and Stuart:

    Thank you first for both of your help in my TLC and TeamRoute problem,
    and I would be grateful if first question in 2366.54 can be resolved
    as well (the problem is given as below again).

    Q. Why after all the installation done, some ALL-IN-1 logicals point
       to the wrong directories? and how to fix it?

       e.g. OA$BUILD_SHARE logical pointed to OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SOURCE] but
            not OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SOURCE_SHARE], which resulted in 

       %DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DUA1:[ALLIN1.SOURCES]A1_ECO001030_RELINK.COM; 
       as input
       -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
       -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
	
       at executiuon of a1_eco001030_relink.com at post-installation of 
       A1 patch v3.0-1.

    I tried running POSTINSTALL.COM and DELETE_OBSOLETE_FILES.COM and
    REPAIR_DIAMOND.COM, but they didn't help.

    Regards,

    Wade
2366.58Beats me... More details possible?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeMon Jan 17 1994 09:018
    I've never heard of this before. Have you made sure that A1V30START has
    successfully run? Is there anything in the Site startup file? Is there
    anything "unusual" about the ALL-IN-1 directory tree? Have things been
    split across more than one disc?
    
    This is a hard question, but how were the logicals defined before? 
    
    Graham
2366.59A1 V3.0A kits/Instal. GuideTPOVC::WADEJENGMon Jan 17 1994 10:3917
    Hi! Paul,

	Thank you for your reply for my ALL-IN-1 V3.0A and TLC V2.0 
    co-instal question, now, I understand to install TLC V2.0, the pre-
    requisite is to install ALL-IN-1 V3.0A. The following needs has come 
    into my mind, please help me in providing the pointer of them:

	1. Where to get ALL-IN-1 V3.0A Kits?
	2. Where to get installation guide, release note of ALL-IN-1 V3.0A?
	   I could not find them in IOSG::USER1:[LIBRARY.A1V30]
	3. Where to get Installation Guide, Release Note of TLC V2.0?

    I only have TLC020.* kit without documents.

    Regards,

    Wade
2366.60Documentation is part of the kitIOSG::EDMONDSONEstne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre?Mon Jan 17 1994 13:5813
    I can't answer your question about the location of the V3.0A kit, but
    once you find the kit, the installation and release notes information
    form part of the kit (you access them by using OPTIONS N of VMSINSTAL).
    
    Similarly, if you have the TLC020 kit, you should have the
    documentation, as it's provided in the form of printable files in
    saveset D.
    
    Alternatively, you can copy the TLC documentation from:
    
    IOSG::USER1:[LIBRARY.TLC]TLC_INST_MG.PS or .TXT
    
    Ro
2366.61Refer to 7.6IOSG::BURTONALL-IN-1 BuilderMon Jan 17 1994 16:476
    See note 7.* for kit location (Including V3.0A).  This also includes a
    cover letter which provides all the information you need to install
    both V3.0A and TLC V2.0, including accessing the release notes &
    TLC installation guide.
    
    Martin.
2366.62Error opening SCRIPT fileTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Jan 25 1994 07:1161
Hi! 

I have finished ALL-IN-1 upgrading from v2.4 to V3.0 on one of our region 
site, I had five items indicated with status code "M" in CART report as 
below prior to upgrading:

	DEFAULT		FRM	ENGLISH		M
	MAILMEMO1	BLP	ENGLISH		M
	MAILMEMO2	BLP	ENGLISH		M
	SCHDMA		FRM	ENGLISH		M
	SCHDMAUISCAN	FRM	ENGLISH		M

I did the minimum conflicts resolution to remove these elements from live
area and put them into development area before upgrading.

After I finished upgrading, I had some message displayed at ALL-IN-1 startup
as I had previously in note #2766.0:

  Obsolete version of OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEMANAGER.FLC; - Continue
  Obsolete version of TMRA1$DISK:[TMRA1SERVICE.LIB_ENGLISH]TMRFLB.FLC; - Continue
  opening SCRIPT file "OAX$LIB_TIDY:SYSTIDY$OAINI"

I tried to compile SITEMANAGER as I did before buy entering "CM" or "SM CSZ", 
I saw the following message shown at the bottom of the screen:

Customization Management search orders set

and then enter "PCF" for precompiling "oa$disk:[allin1.site.lib_english]
sitemanager", I got the following message:

Error opening SCRIPT file "CM_PCF"
     
then press CTRL/N to display named data accordingly, then I got:

Error opening MERGE file "VIEW"                           	...Press RETURN

I tried to execute certain other fucntions, it seemed to me that since I enter
"CM" or "SM CSZ", the customization search order was set, then, I no longer to
find any script or press "CTRL/N" to view any named data, I even tried to 
execute CART resolution script file as CART menu proposed as follows:

<do oa$disk:[allin1.site]cm_cart_script_v30$english

and failed with the follows:

Form *CMMANAGEAREAS is not in the library

Q. Did I have to do something before ALL-IN-1 startup? since I removed those
   five elements as mandatory conflict resolution prior to upgrade.

Q. What might go wrong with my customization search order?

Q. Why I could not get oa$disk:[allin1.site]cm_cart_script_v30$english 
   executed as instructed in CART menu?

Q. My EMC form still looked as V2.4, I could not find DRAWER field as V3.0
   supposed to see.

Regards,

Wade
2366.63develop area open?IOSG::BILSBOROUGHSWBFSTue Jan 25 1994 08:3812
    
    It sounds like you ask CM to open your development areas when you first
    entered CM, correct?
    
    Go into you OAUSER and delete *.A1$ESO;*, *.A1$LSO;*
    When you go into CM again and it asks about developement areas say N.
    
    Note that you shouldn't be running the CART script without first
    playing around with it quite a bit.  You'll need to edit it so that it
    only processes the statuses for particular elements.
    
    Mike
2366.64/NOCUSTOM and no DEVELOP forms or areas!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeTue Jan 25 1994 17:4616
    Re last question
    
    If you've customised EMC, then you'll still see the old version, since
    it's not a mandatory change. It will be a change that you should
    address "soon" after the upgrade though.
    
    Expanding on Mike's previous reply, because the Manager is a CM user,
    he gets the DEVELOP forma library etc., opened when he goes into CM,
    and hence all the things that you removed from live get found again.
    
    You need to tidy up a bit whilst the MANAGER doesn't see any
    customisations, so as well as taking Mike's advice to stop DEVELOP
    being opended, it wouild be a good idea to start ALL-IN-1 with
    /NOCUSTOM as well.
    
    Graham
2366.65delete *.a1$eso *.a1$lso filesTPOVC::WADEJENGFri Jan 28 1994 05:5527
    Hi! Mike and Graham,
    
    I have found some *.a1$eso and *.a1$lso files as below:
    
    Directory OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE]
    
    CM_APPLICATION.A1$ESO;1                 CM_APPLICATION.A1$LSO;1
    CM_MANAGER.A1$ESO;1 CM_MANAGER.A1$LSO;1 CM_PROGRAMMER.A1$ESO;1
    CM_PROGRAMMER.A1$LSO;1
    
    Total of 6 files.
    
    Directory OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.MGR]
    
    CM_MANAGER.A1$ESO;1 CM_MANAGER.A1$LSO;1 DEFAULT.A1$ESO;1   
    DEFAULT.A1$LSO;1
    
    Total of 4 files.
    
    Mike, in .63 reply, you said go into OAUSER, I am assuming to login
    into ALL-IN-1 MANAGER account, but you want me to delete *.a1$eso
    and *.a1$lso files, is that only apply to those files in OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.
    MGR], or I have to delete files in OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE] as well?
    
    Regards,
    
    Wade 
2366.66NO, NO, NO :-)IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeFri Jan 28 1994 09:1111
    NO, DO NOT delete the ones in OA$LIB! They are the template ones used
    to set up everybody's search orders.
    
    Just go into the MNAGAER account, spawn into the subprocess, and you'll
    be in the right place. (Usually [.MGR]) and just delete the Manager's
    *.%SO files.
    
    Then exit ALL-IN-1 and reent;er, and when you go into CM, say "N" to
    teh question about including DEVELOP in the search order.
    
    Graham
2366.67problem after deleting *.a1%so filesTPOVC::WADEJENGWed Feb 02 1994 01:3715
Hi! Graham and Mike,

I did delete *.a1%so files in [ALLIN1.MGR] (e.g. CM_MANAGER.A1%SO, 
DEFAULT.A1%SO), and then reenter ALL-IN-1. But when I enter "CM"
I got "Cannot find form "CM1"" message in response, and I could'nt
even go into CM again to answer "N" at the prompt for development 
areas, have you had experience in this problem? I also enter 
"ALLIN1/NOCUST", and I could get a new EMC form with DRAWER new 
feature shown on the screen which is the right display on V3.0,
if I don't enter "ALLIN1/NOCUSTOM" and I still got V2.4 display
without DRAWER shown. 

Regards,

Wade 
2366.68IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeWed Feb 02 1994 09:3111
    1) Check what form libraries the MANAGER has in his PROFIL record.
    
    2) Are you specifying any other qualifiers to the ALLIN1 (sic)
    commmand, like /MENU or similar?
    
    3) Until this is a bit better sorted, always use ALLI/NOCUSTOM.
    
    The initial CM form is called CM$MAIN in V3.0, so something is
    obviously still amiss. Probably you are seeing the wrong DEFAULT form.
    
    Graham
2366.69EMC in DEVELOP.FLB not in SITEOAFORMTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Feb 08 1994 06:2225
Hi! Graham,

I have completed subsequent installation of systidy and sysuser after I
did ALL-IN-1 v3.0 installation, for my previous problems in .62, I 
suspected that my ALL-IN-1 v2.4 was incorporated with SYSUSER/SYSTIDY
V1.0 which resulted in certain "CM" problems, therefore, I did the upgrade
for SYSTIDY and SYSUSER form v1.0 to v2.0 respectively, and now, the system
seems to work properly, I can do "SM", "CM", .... , and "EM" (using "EMC" 
form in OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEOAFORM) also come up a new menu
with "DRAWER" new feature in it.

There is still a minor problem in my ALL-IN-1 v3.0, right after I do "CM",
which will in turn, set search order, then I come back to do "EM", then
the "EMC" form was changed to OA$DISK:[ALLIN1.SITE.DEV_ENGLISH]DEVELOP.FLB, 
I believe it's because search order has been reset. I do "CM" "SCE" "SSO",
my current order is "CM_MANAGER" the first, "DEFAULT" the second, which
I believe should be the right order.

Q. Should I reset some other search order (e.g. form library order)?

Q. Should I just go ahead replace EMC in DEVELOP.FLB with EMC in SITEOAFORM?

Regards,

Wade
2366.70Where is "ALL","XR" named data/SCRIPTTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Feb 08 1994 10:0313
    Hi,
    
    Can someone provide me the pointer where to locate "ALL" and "XR"
    SCRIT fiels or named data, I use "CTRL/N" to look at "EM$INDEX$MENU" 
    form, but have the difficulty to find them. It seems to me that they
    XOP "~~MULTIPLE_FILING_LOOP~~", "~~MULTIPLE_LOOP~~", and 
    "~~MULTIPLE_READ~~" procedures, but I have the problem to find these
    procedures.
    
    Regards,
    
    Wade
    
2366.71IOSG::MAURICEI left my heart in AlcatrazTue Feb 08 1994 10:5323
    Hi,
    
    You will find the Named Data for ALL on form MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX,
    under ;;OA$_MO_SELECT_ALL;;
    
    There are also related forms such as SM$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX,
    SA$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX & CM$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX.FLX for use in
    System Mgt, System Administrtation, and Customisation Mgt respectively.
    (I think there's another one as well). But your note impiles it's the
    index of message you are interested in, and so MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX
    is the one you want.
    
    You will find the Named Data for "XR" in form EM$INDEX$OPTIONS (again
    assuming it's the index of messages you are interested in). 
    
    A little trick to get these "invisible" forms up to see the Named data
    is to type:
    	<form MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX/pre=prompt
    and then use Control N to see the Named data.
    
    HTH
    
    Stuart
2366.72You choose the EMC form!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeWed Feb 09 1994 18:1510
    RE .69
    
    If you are any sort of Application Programmer in the profile, you'll
    get DEVELOP opened, and so you'll see EMC from there. That's the way
    it's supposed to work...
    
    I can't tell you whether the version of EMC in DEVELOP or OAFORM or
    SITEOAFORM is the right one, you have to decide that!
    
    Graham
2366.73how to modify oa$_tmr_mo_read to oa$_tmr_mo_x_readTPOVC::WADEJENGFri Feb 18 1994 03:4145
Hi! Stuart,

Thank you first for your reply on my 608.0 question, but I cannot find
"ALL" AND "XR" either in TMR$ARG$INDEX_DOCS_OPTIONS or TMR$MORE$SCROLL$
KEYS$INDEX$DOCS named data, I only find "READ" function 
as below from TMR$ARG$INDEX_DOCS_OPTIONS.

;;OA$_TMR_MO_READ;;

  get #tmrdoc = oa$scroll_key\
  xop "~~verify_tmrdoc~~"\
  .fx ifnotstatus\\oa$msg_purge\\
    get oa$display = oa$_tmr_cl_not_tmr_document\
  .fx ifstatus\\xop "~~set_new_tmrdoc~~"\\do tmr$cl_read\\close_prior\\
                           |
                           --------------------------------^
    oa$scl_update cab$.%address[$tmrdoc]\\                 |
    oa$scl_refresh                                         |
                                                           |
Could you give me a pointer on how to modify this script   | to provide a 
"XR" function for "read all selected" or instruct me which | form to find
          -------------------------------------------------^
	 |
	 ^
"~~set_new_tmrdoc~~" procedure.

I have added a function -- "ALL" for "select all" as below, I extract exactly 
the same named data from MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX, and I am working on "XR" 
function at current stage.
                                                     
;;OA$_MO_SELECT_ALL;;

GET OA$FUNCTION="FOR " OA$SCROLL_BINDING " DO
  GET OA$FUNCTION = 'OA$SCL_SELECT OA$SEL_ADDRESS'"\OA$SCL_REFRESH

Stuart, is it possible the "ALL" and "XR" function in TMR$ARG$INDEX_DOCS_OPTIONS
and TMR$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX$DOCS of my TMRFLB.FLB has been removed somehow 
by our former TMR developer, if you think it might be the case why I cannot
find "ALL" and "XR" in these two forms' named data, please give me a pointer 
where to copy a complete form of TMR$ARG$INDEX_DOCS_OPTIONS and 
TMR$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX$DOCS repectively.
  
Thanks,

Wade
2366.75IOSG::MAURICEI left my heart in AlcatrazFri Feb 18 1994 15:5412
    Re .73
    
    Hi Wade,
    
    The changes to add the ALL and XR options were part of the enhancements
    made in V1.1 of TeamRoute for ALL-IN-1. These options were not present
    in V1.0. So I suspect that you are either looking at the V1.0 forms, or
    you are looking on a V1.1 system at customised versions of these forms.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
2366.76Error in creating ALLIN1 user on V3.0TPOVC::WADEJENGWed Apr 13 1994 04:4636
    Hi! 
    
    I have a problem in creating a ALLIN1 user on my system (ALLIN1 v.30),
    The log file was extracted as follows, please help me in resolving this 
    problem. Thanks!
    
    ========================= OA$CREATE_WADE_JENG.LOG =======================
    
    .................
    
    File Cabinet created with status = 1
    
    Profile record for the ALL-IN-1 subdirectory is (before)
    MIS$DISK:[WADEJENG.ALL
    Profile record for the ALL-IN-1 subdirectory is (after)
    MIS$DISK:[WADEJENG.ALLI
    
    SMTEMPLATE record for the UIC Group is (before)     30
    SMTEMPLATE record for the UIC Group is (after)     30
    
    Creating the user's Subscriber Entry in the Mail Directory ...
    Profile flag for adding subscriber to Mail Directory = Y
    
    cli$dds_status = 0
    
    Testing the DDS server status ...
    
    Status returned from DDS suspended check = 2
    
    DDS is stopped - unable to add subscriber; quitting...
    
    A fatal error has occurred in SM_CR_USER_DETAILS.SCP
    
    ...............
    
    ================================= End of log ============================
2366.77DDS stopped?IOSG::TYLDESLEYWed Apr 13 1994 10:3416
    Well the simplest way to avoid this is not to add the user to the Mail
    Directory when you create them! ;-)    Edit the template you are using 
    to turn the Mail directory field to 'N', and re-try.
    
    Other than that, the log tells you what is wrong - DDS is suspended.
    There are some states of DDS that are difficult to check, and suspended
    is one of them, if I recall, because the inquiry simply hangs...
    So, Create User does a very mickey-mouse test for DDS suspension, which
    is what is failing your Create User job. Check out DDS on your systems.
    
    If you have a look at oa$lib:sm_submit_check_dds.com you will see that
    the actual error status returned (2) means that "DDS is stopped".
    
    Cheers
    DaveT

2366.78A1_FC_REPORT_MAIL.SCP cannot be parsedTPOVC::WADEJENGTue Apr 26 1994 13:5625
Hi!

I am doing the SYSTIDY upgrade from v1.0 to v2.0 on ALL-IN-1 v3.0, and 
resulting in a failure with following messages:

  ...............
  ...............

%SYSTIDY-I-MARKELE, Marking A1CHECKMAIL                            CLD
%SYSTIDY-I-MARKELE, Marking A1CHECKMAIL                            FGN
%SYSTIDY-I-MARKELE, Marking A1_FC_REPORT_MAIL                      DO
%VMSINSTAL-E-BADSPEC, File spec  A1_FC_REPORT_MAIL.SCP  cannot be parsed
%VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of SYSTIDY V2.0 has failed.

  ...............
  ...............

I assuming that the installation procedure try to execute A1_FC_REPORT_MAIL.SCP
which can't be found.

Can someone help me on this issue?

Regards

Wade
2366.79print one page only for a multiple pages mailTPOVC::WADEJENGTue May 03 1994 08:4114
Hi! 

I have a problem in printing a multiple pages mail to a printer or a file,
when this mail go to a printer or a file, it extracts one page only but
not all the pages, this page is locate in the middle of this mail. I have
tried "BMA" - for Balance Mail Area, and "RSD" - for Reorganize shared 
directories, but still cannot eliminate this problem. I am thinking to 
delete this specific user account and re-create it again, but I am lake
of the experience in how to recover mail messages for a deleted user 
after recreation.

Can someone provide me with some solutions of my problem?

Wade  
2366.80obvious ideaFRAMBO::HOFMANNStefan Hofmann, IST FiWi @FRSTue May 03 1994 08:506
    did you check the entries in fields "FROM_PAGE" and "TO_PAGE" on
    printer setting form WPPARG1? Maybe somebody changed it to e.g. page 
    6 to 7 and stored it as standard printer settings which are now used 
    for your long mail.
    
    	Stefan
2366.81Need more instruction on printer settingTPOVC::WADEJENGTue May 03 1994 13:1026
Hi!

I did try "WPPARG1" and the form displayed as follows:

                             Print Settings Menu

         CO   Change control settings
         PG   Change pagination settings
         PL   Change page layout
         FS   Change footnote settings

         RB   Remove blank lines at top of page (Y/N): N
         SS   Save print settings                    # 0
         RS   Restore print settings                 # 0

         P    Print with current settings

I assumed that your idea in checking "FROM_PAGE" and "TO_PAGE" on printer
setting was the option "PG", but I found all users at TPO have no data fill 
in this form which meaned that no "FROM_PAGE" and "TO_PAGE" has been set, 
and only one specific user have my reported problem -- print one page only 
for a multiple pages mail.

Can you please instruct me more on the possible solution? Thanks.

Wade  
2366.82Not the DIGITAL WPPARG1 formIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue May 03 1994 14:065
Your WPPARG1 is not the standard DIGITAL V2.4 or V3.0 WPPARG1 form, so it is
probably a customized version.  


Richard
2366.83Print setting mess up constantlyTPOVC::WADEJENGThu May 05 1994 05:3616
    Hi! Strefan and Richard,
    
    Thank you for your help first, I finally can get around with my problem
    by reset "First page printed:" and "Last page printed:" number, and it
    works, but only temporarily.
    
    What happen now is after I reset, I use "SS" to save print settings to
    area 0, after that specific user print a couple of files, then print
    settings will be messed up again, so user has to use "RS" to restore 
    print settings from area 0, I don't know what cause this problem? Is it
    possible because of files contain control codes which mess up print 
    setting? 
    
    Please help me in this problem again. Thanks!
    
    Wade
2366.84The same document?IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Thu May 05 1994 12:3023
>    What happen now is after I reset, I use "SS" to save print settings to
>    area 0, after that specific user print a couple of files, then print
>    settings will be messed up again, so user has to use "RS" to restore 
>    print settings from area 0, I don't know what cause this problem? Is it
>    possible because of files contain control codes which mess up print 
>    setting? 
    
Are you saying that when the user has printed the SAME document a couple of
time the WPS-PLUS Print Settings are changed.

If the user is printing DIFFERENT documents then what you are seeing could be
expected.  Each WPS-PLUS documents has its own WPS-PLUS Print Settings which
are stored in the header of the .WPL file.  When you print a WPS-PLUS document
its own Print Settings are used by default unless you decide to change them.

Therefore every WPS-PLUS document may have different settings.  If you decide
to change the WPS-PLUS Print Settings during a print operation then you are
changing the settings for that document only, and no other existing documents
will be changed.


Richard
2366.85File Cabinet cannot be accessedTPOVC::WADEJENGWed May 11 1994 15:2118
    Hi!
    
    One of my region site has a problem in using "EM" after they upgrade 
    their ALL-IN-1 to v3.0a and incorporated with TLC v2.0, their mail
    folder now appearing all blank, and display the following message while
    enter "SEL" to select a folder.
    
    File Cabinet cannot be accessed
    There is no such drawer
    
    and I check the mail area OA$SHARA and OA$SHARE and they all seems to
    be ok, the OA$SHARA and OA$SHARE logicals are all well-defined.
    
    Can someone help me with this problem?
    
    Regards,
    
    Wade
2366.86I know nothing about it, but...IOSG::MARSHALLA glitch in realityWed May 11 1994 18:143
Sounds like the partition needs re-seeding?

Scott
2366.87How to re-seed partition?TPOVC::WADEJENGThu May 12 1994 09:205
    Hi! Scott,
    
    Can you please instruct me how to re-seed my partition. Thanks!
    
    Wade
2366.88To seed a partition...IOSG::MARSHALLA glitch in realityThu May 12 1994 13:286
See OA$LIB:OAFC$PART_SEED.SCP.

In particular, read the comments in the script about setting #OAFC_SEED_USER
just to do one user.

Scott
2366.89How to cut display of dist. list?TPOVC::WADEJENGWed Jul 06 1994 10:1321
Hi! 

I have a user request to cut the display of distribution list, can someone
address me how to start to work on this issue (e.g, modify script)?

=========================== A1 mail ====================================== 
.............
.............

Is it possible to do something at the system level to cut the display of 
distribution list to 5 names or less, so that we would not waste time in 
reading pages of distribution list before we get to the mail content?

This can definitely improve our work efficiency.

Please advise.

.............
.............

=========================== A1 mail ====================================== 
2366.90V3.1IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Wed Jul 06 1994 15:1810
Re: .89

Why is this an ALL-IN-1 V2.4 to V3.0 upgrade problem, because neither 
version supports distribution list suppression?

ALL-IN-1 V3.1 does support distribution list suppression for Read and Print
operations, so if you upgrade to V3.1 you will get this feature.


Richard
2366.91Did you just wipe something out?SHRMSG::HOWARDYes it isWed Jul 06 1994 22:2510
    There are many notes on how to modify the boilerplates to do this.  You
    should look through a directory.  Of course, if they are VMS Mail
    messages, you can't do it, but for ALL-IN-1 messages you can.  Is it
    possible that you didn't run the CART (?) to find your customizations
    from V2.4?  You should be able to pull your old MAILMEMOn.BLP files
    from V2.4 and use those.  You do have to customize the SWC forms a bit,
    I guess, but the old values should still be in the users' .PST files
    for the time being.
    
    Ben
2366.92GIDDAY::JOYCEDigital CSC SydneyThu Jul 07 1994 04:0714
    
    Re .-1
    
    >You should be able to pull your old MAILMEMOn.BLP files
    >    from V2.4 and use those.  
    
    No, you shouldn't.  They don't include the "Sent By:" field which get's
    displayed when the message has been sent by someone using SMU.
    
    Personally, I'd re-customise the V3.0 ones (or install V3.1).
    
    
    Andy
    
2366.93dist. list suppression has nothing to do with upgradeTPOVC::WADEJENGMon Jul 11 1994 11:1216
    Hi! Andy, Ben and Richard,
    
    The first, I like to thank to you all for your prompt reply, the second, I
    like to say sorry I should'nt put my note .89 under A1 v2.4 to v3.0 upgrade
    becuased it confused all of you and it actually has nothing to do with
    ALLIN1 upgrade.
    
    I am supposed to use another topic, but my question really is how can I
    implement a distribution list suppression for read and print operation?
    Richard, you mentioned that there are some notes do talk about this issue,
    can you give me one or two note number which I can have a look first and
    figure out how to change the boilerplates to suppress distribution list?
    
    Thank you again!
    
    Wade 
2366.94Here's a startSHRMSG::HOWARDYes it isMon Jul 11 1994 21:114
    You might start with note 1403.  I don't have a listing of the V2.4
    conference handy, but there are probably quite a few in there.  
    
    Ben
2366.95See note 2.1 ?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeTue Jul 12 1994 10:107
    <<< I don't have a listing of the V2.4 conference handy, but there are
    <<< probably quite a few in there
    
    See note 2.1 in this conference for a directory listing of the previous
    (ALL-IN-1_V24) version of this conference.
    
    Graham
2366.96Mail subject do not carry over at forwardingTPOVC::WADEJENGMon Jul 18 1994 09:5644
    Hi!
    
    I failed to add a new topic to ask the problem I have encountered and
    got a error message as below:
    
    Conference is set to REPLIES only. No policy privilege to add new topics.
    
    Therefore, I still put my issue under V2.4 to V3.0 upgrade.
    
    My issue is that on V2.4, when a user forwarding a READ mail, the subject
    usually carry over the original mail subject unless user want to over-
    write it. But on my v3.0, the subject is always blank. The new named data
    of EMFWHD is partially extracted for your review as follows, I tried "<get
    cab$.subject[oa$curdoc]", they all turned out to be good, in other words,
    they are all corresponding to the current mail subject. Please help me to 
    figure out the reason why it always comes up blank.
    
    ========================= start of attachment ==============================
    ..............
    ..............
    
    ;;SUBJECT;;
    
    /PRE='GET #CASE = #KMAIL_ANS = ""'
    /GET=CAB$.SUBJECT[OA$CURDOC]
    /HARD=OA$_GBL_SUBJECT
    /POST='GET SUBJECT = SUBJECT::Z\GET #KMAIL_SAVE_SUBJ=SUBJECT\XOP
    "~~GET_SEC~~"'
                                                                                   
    ..............
    ..............
    
    ;;~~GET_SEC~~;;
    
    FOR KMAIL_CLASSES WITH .VALUE EQS KMAIL_CLASS DO GET #KMAIL_C_CLASS=.CLASS\
    GET OA$MESSAGE_FIELD='SUBJECT ' SUBJECT:71 #KMAIL_C_CLASS\
    .IF #KMAIL_C_CLASS GES "3" THEN MAIL NON_FORWARDABLE ELSE MAIL FORWARDABL
    
    --------------
    =========================== End of attachment =============================
    
    Can someone give me your help in resolving this issue?
    
    Wade
2366.97Upgrade to V3.1 ? (and new conf :-) )IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeMon Jul 18 1994 12:5210
    See conference title, there is a new version of the conference, in
    which you *can* write new notes. Less and less people will be reading
    this old version of the conference, so I suggest you move to the new
    one ASAP.
    
    In V3.1, the title is automatically copied from the underlying message,
    with 'FWD:' put on the front. In V3.0, I don't think that the mail code
    does the copy of the subject, but the WP code does.
    
    Graham