Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

2362.0. "How to receive PATHWORKS Mail?????" by SANFAN::BRENNAN_JI () Thu Mar 04 1993 20:10

    Hi, My customer is a PATHWORKS and ALL-IN-1 IOS shop that runs 
    Wordperfect on their PCs and VAX.  They are interested in using
    PATHWORKS Mail from the PC to send messages with WordPerfect binary
    attachments to ALL-IN-1 IOS users.  PATHWORKS Mail does allow the
    attachment and sending of "1" binary file.  I have advised them to
    send this message to the ALL-IN-1 IOS users VMSmail account and have
    told them to forward all of those users VMS Mail on to ALL-IN-1 IOS.
    
    What happens is that the original PATHWORKS Mail message header
    information comes into ALL-IN-1 as the attachment and the binary 
    file/intended attachment does not come across.  
    
    I am including notes I initiated in the PATHWORKS notes conference for
    your review.  I need to understand 1) Will this or should this work
    2) If so how....How I have advised and we're just not setting something
    in ALL-IN-1 IOS correctly or if some additional code/functionality is
    necessary or if another product/option is available to accomplish the
    goal.
    
    Thanks so much
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SANFAN::BRENNAN_JI                                   18 lines   1-MAR-1993 20:01
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    Hi, I have a customer who wants to use PATHWORKS Mail to send basic
    mail + one binary file attachment (a Wordperfect document).  This
    should be pretty straight forward right?  Well their destination is not
    another PATHWORKS user but an ALL-IN-1 IOS user using WordPerfect for
    the VAX.   Everything works great when it's PATHWORKS Mail + attachment
    to PATHWORKS Mail but when the message is sent to the IOS user the
    binary file attachment header is appended to the message itself and the
    intended attachment (the Wordperfect document) is not included. 
    
    I am asking this question here because I want to know if this should
    work and if PATHWORKS mail supports this functionality.   Is there 
    something that needs to be configured that I have not considered?
    
    Please let me know, the customer is somewhat stuck until I get back to
    tem.
    
    Thanks,
    Jill
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RANGER::BACKSTROM "bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24"   15 lines   2-MAR-1993 00:44
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A PW MAIL binary attachement is just an UUENCODEd file with a special
header in the message, before the attachment.

If you look at a message with an attachment from VMS Mail, is it there
completely? What happens, if you then in VMS Mail forward it to an
ALL-IN-1 account? Have you checked with ALL-IN-1 folks if there's
something they do?

Do also note that unless ALL-IN-1 IOS has knowledge of the PW MAIL
special header, and an UUDECODEr, an ALL-IN-1 user won't be able to
do anything with the attachment even if he/she gets it intact (unless
he/she can extract it to an RMS file and run a separate UUDECODE
utility, and then import it back to ALL-IN-1 (or WordPerfect) somehow.

...petri
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MIMS::SNIDER_B                                        6 lines   2-MAR-1993 13:48
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    PATHWORKS Mail binary attachment is only supported to another PW Mail
    node.
    
    
    Beth
    CSC Atlanta - PATHWORKS Support
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RANGER::BACKSTROM "bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24"   12 lines   2-MAR-1993 14:02
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Re: .2

Of course, but it works with any mail system with scripting facilities
inside or outside the mail system and UUENCODE/UUDECODE programs.

E.g., VMS Mail users could specify TPU (EVE, really) or SEDT as their editor 
and make the editor extract (or include) a PW MAIL binary attachment and call
an external program to do the UUENCODE/UUDECODE part. With TPU, I guess, one
could even use the TPU language to write the UUENCODE/UUDECODE program.

...petri
 
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SANFAN::BRENNAN_JI                                    9 lines   2-MAR-1993 15:45
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    Hi, I understand what is being said but I do not know if my original
    question has been answered.  Will the UUENCODE/UUDECODE "limit" or
    "prohibit" what my customer wants to accomplish.  If it does, what must
    they install/configure/implement in order to allow attaching 1, one,
    just ONE binary file and sending it ultimatelty to an ALL-IN-1 IOS
    user via VMSmail???  
    Thanks,
    
    Jill
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RANGER::BACKSTROM "bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24"   17 lines   2-MAR-1993 16:22
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Assuming ALL-IN-1 IOS accepts the message (I don't see why it wouldn't,
since it basically is just text after the UUDECODE phase anyway):

    You need to write an ALL-IN-1 script to process the message,
    detect the PW MAIL header and extract the attachment part
    to a file, UUDECODE it and do whatever you want with it
    after that.
    
The world is full of UUENCODE/UUDECODE programs (even for VMS ;-)

See, e.g., the various shareware, public domain software archives like 
CALDEC""::PD1:[MSDOS...] if you want to find UUENCODE/UUDECODE source 
code to start from. Check, perhaps, also the VMSMKT::IBMPC_SHAREWARE 
conference.


...petri
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JOCKEY::SHARKEYA "six six seven - the neighbor of th" 4 lines   4-MAR-1993 13:43
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    Petri, you forgot that EasyEdit has UUENCODE/DECODE facilities !!!
    
    Alan
    
    

>    What happens is that the original PATHWORKS Mail message header
>    information comes into ALL-IN-1 as the attachment and the binary 
>    file/intended attachment does not come across.  

    Do you see the UUENCODEd data with the message header?  What if
    you don't forward to ALL-IN-1, can you see the UUENCODEd data from
    within VMSmail?

    Cheers,
        Paul.