Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 4343 |
Total number of notes: | 18308 |
ALL-IN-1 Installers, Have you noticed that the slowest part of the ALL-IN-1 V3.0 installation seems to be the stage where it says "Files will now be moved to target directories..."? This can take several hours on a 3 VUP processor and a significant amount of time even on a fast CPU. The problem is that when ALL-IN-1 system files are not located on the system disk, VMSINSTAL moves each file (one at a time) from [.A1030] in SYS$UPDATE to the ALL-IN-1 disk using BACKUP. You can monitor progress by counting the files in this directory with DIR/TOT SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSUPD.A1030]. It starts at about 3,000 files and gets down to about 200 files before the upgrade continues with other work. In fact, I use that to decide whether there's time to go for a pizza or a full meal!!! This is a slow process, largely because it takes a lot of time to invoke BACKUP 3,000 times. I tried INSTALLing the BACKUP.EXE image with /SHARE/OPEN/HEAD and then going to another session and typing BACKUP LOGIN.COM LOGIN.BCK/CONF. This makes the BACKUP image shareable and the other session keeps it in memory. This procedure made a slight difference (I think) but not much. A much better idea is to use the "alternate working directory" feature of VMSINSTAL. If you have enough space, use the ALL-IN-1 disk to hold the files produced by VMSINSTAL. Then, when the files are moved VMSINSTAL, simply does a RENAME for each file. This is much faster and the whole process on a 3 VUP system takes around 45 mins. I know that this is the opposite of what you expect - you think that it will take longer because all the work is done on the one disk. It probably does make the early stages a bit slower but the overall time is much less. To use the AWD option: @SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL A1030 disk:[A1030.KIT] OPTIONS AWD=al1_disk:[INSTALL] where disk is the kit device and al1_disk is the device for your ALL-IN-1 system. If you're in a hurry, give it a try. Andrew Smith
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2356.1 | Thanks Andrew ... | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, NTCC, Birmingham UK | Thu Mar 04 1993 11:04 | 8 |
What a clever idea! I use AWD because i don't have any space on my system disk, but using it to speed up installations is brilliant. Cheers, mb | |||||
2356.2 | Wouldn't work for patches though | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | I dreamt I found a working printer! | Thu Mar 04 1993 15:53 | 7 |
Please note that the ALL-IN-1 Patches and Options e.g WPS-PLUS v4 or v3.0-1 or K605 etc do not support the use of AWD as has been discussed many times before. Regards, Andrew.D.Wicks | |||||
2356.3 | Brilliant! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Thu Mar 04 1993 17:49 | 6 |
I second .1's view, that's a really brilliant idea. Perhaps we can use it here to speed up our installation testing! Graham PS Of course if we could get VMSINSTAL to work faster... | |||||
2356.4 | With AWD you don't need Alpha | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | At least the beer was good... | Mon Mar 22 1993 08:25 | 12 |
Hello, Great. Moving files on a 3100 Model 80 took less than 45 minutes. Whole 3.0 upgrade about 2 hours. I was so exited about the idea that I forgot to install the prerequisite parts of DECwindows for CDAPAT011 so I still lost most my saturday. But what the hack. Better than digging the garden. Regards, Jan | |||||
2356.5 | Wonderful Stuff! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Thu Mar 25 1993 08:58 | 8 |
Last night we did an update installation of the latest Base Level of a Posssible Future Release, and the time on a 256Mb 6340 using RA90s went down from about 8hours to 3hours 40 minutes! I only wish we'd thought of this about a thousand test installations ago! Graham | |||||
2356.6 | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Ajax, Ajax, Ajax... | Tue Apr 06 1993 13:24 | 10 | |
Fresh installation on a 3100 model 10 : 2� hours. Hint to speed up post install of 3.0-1. Borrow STEP_2 of OA$LIB:A1$POSTINSTALL.COM to compile and install form libraries and TXLs. Saves lots of typing. Regards, Jan |