| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 4343 |
| Total number of notes: | 18308 |
ALL-IN-1 Installers,
Have you noticed that the slowest part of the ALL-IN-1 V3.0 installation
seems to be the stage where it says "Files will now be moved to target
directories..."?
This can take several hours on a 3 VUP processor and a significant
amount of time even on a fast CPU.
The problem is that when ALL-IN-1 system files are not located on the
system disk, VMSINSTAL moves each file (one at a time) from [.A1030]
in SYS$UPDATE to the ALL-IN-1 disk using BACKUP.
You can monitor progress by counting the files in this directory with
DIR/TOT SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSUPD.A1030]. It starts at about 3,000 files
and gets down to about 200 files before the upgrade continues with
other work. In fact, I use that to decide whether there's time to go
for a pizza or a full meal!!!
This is a slow process, largely because it takes a lot of time to
invoke BACKUP 3,000 times. I tried INSTALLing the BACKUP.EXE image
with /SHARE/OPEN/HEAD and then going to another session and typing
BACKUP LOGIN.COM LOGIN.BCK/CONF. This makes the BACKUP image shareable
and the other session keeps it in memory. This procedure made a
slight difference (I think) but not much.
A much better idea is to use the "alternate working directory" feature
of VMSINSTAL. If you have enough space, use the ALL-IN-1 disk to hold
the files produced by VMSINSTAL. Then, when the files are moved
VMSINSTAL, simply does a RENAME for each file. This is much faster
and the whole process on a 3 VUP system takes around 45 mins.
I know that this is the opposite of what you expect - you think that it
will take longer because all the work is done on the one disk. It
probably does make the early stages a bit slower but the overall time
is much less.
To use the AWD option:
@SYS$UPDATE:VMSINSTAL A1030 disk:[A1030.KIT] OPTIONS AWD=al1_disk:[INSTALL]
where disk is the kit device and al1_disk is the device for your
ALL-IN-1 system.
If you're in a hurry, give it a try.
Andrew Smith
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
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| 2356.1 | Thanks Andrew ... | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, NTCC, Birmingham UK | Thu Mar 04 1993 11:04 | 8 |
What a clever idea! I use AWD because i don't have any space on my system disk, but using it to speed up installations is brilliant. Cheers, mb | |||||
| 2356.2 | Wouldn't work for patches though | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | I dreamt I found a working printer! | Thu Mar 04 1993 15:53 | 7 |
Please note that the ALL-IN-1 Patches and Options e.g WPS-PLUS v4
or v3.0-1 or K605 etc do not support the use of AWD as has been
discussed many times before.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 2356.3 | Brilliant! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Thu Mar 04 1993 17:49 | 6 |
I second .1's view, that's a really brilliant idea. Perhaps we can use
it here to speed up our installation testing!
Graham
PS Of course if we could get VMSINSTAL to work faster...
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| 2356.4 | With AWD you don't need Alpha | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | At least the beer was good... | Mon Mar 22 1993 08:25 | 12 |
Hello,
Great. Moving files on a 3100 Model 80 took less than 45 minutes.
Whole 3.0 upgrade about 2 hours.
I was so exited about the idea that I forgot to install the
prerequisite parts of DECwindows for CDAPAT011 so I still lost
most my saturday. But what the hack. Better than digging the garden.
Regards,
Jan
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| 2356.5 | Wonderful Stuff! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Thu Mar 25 1993 08:58 | 8 |
Last night we did an update installation of the latest Base Level of a
Posssible Future Release, and the time on a 256Mb 6340 using RA90s went
down from about 8hours to 3hours 40 minutes!
I only wish we'd thought of this about a thousand test installations
ago!
Graham
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| 2356.6 | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Ajax, Ajax, Ajax... | Tue Apr 06 1993 12:24 | 10 | |
Fresh installation on a 3100 model 10 : 2� hours.
Hint to speed up post install of 3.0-1. Borrow STEP_2 of
OA$LIB:A1$POSTINSTALL.COM to compile and install form libraries
and TXLs. Saves lots of typing.
Regards,
Jan
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