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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2276.0. "GPC - MCM (Mail Conference Members) Nasties" by GIDDAY::BURT (Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693) Wed Feb 17 1993 03:35

Hello and Greetings,

Oh no!, GPC problems.
I've not seen this problem addressed elsewhere in the conference, of in STARS. 
It does not seem to be addressed in 3.0-1 either...

Customer running ALL-IN-1 V3.0 with WordPerfect integration. (not sure what 
version of VAX Notes) reported having reproducable stack-dumps when sending 
mail to conference members (MCM) from GPC. 
Problem seemed to occur (according to customer) when new members were added, 
as GPC added them in format of node::vmsuser, rather than node::allin1user.

The customer has since found that, occasionally, the Index of conference 
members differs from the Mail conference members distribution list 
- ie it appears that the MCM is actually mailing to the WRONG conference 
members.
Although doing a deletion & re-creation of the username.PST seems to resolve
that particular problem, one user (the conference moderator) is still "reliably"
crashing when attempting to mail conference members. The customer can do the
same MCM, without mod privs, successfully.

I have requested that the customer attempt to <newdir to the problem user & 
try then.

I have also requested a copy of the stack, and a trace of both the stack
problem, and the incorrect member list problem.

Does anyone have anything profound I can tell the customer?

(BTW this is the same customer who was having bad-nasty attacks in Note 2092 
{bad block address})


Thanks & Regards,

Chele B
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2276.1To reproduce the problem.....IOSG::ELLIOTTRMon Feb 22 1993 12:5016
    Hi,
    
    I'm not sure if you've figured this out already, but here's how to
    reproduce the problem at will:
    
    1. Create a conference.
    
    2. Add the ALL-IN-1 System Manager as a member - (MANAGER).
    
    3. Mail Conference Members.
    
    4. Hey presto - when you confirm you wish to send the mail an ACCVIO!!
    
    
    Cheers,                                                   
    Russell. (IOSG Support) 
2276.2a few more problems?OASS::OASS::BURDEN_DThis is a Studebaker YearWed Aug 25 1993 21:2311
I have found a few problems with GPC MM on a customer system:

The VMS and ALL-IN-1 username are the same and the mail address in the conf are
all the same format - node::vms_user.  If the GPC member name matches the other
two and MM is used, the mail goes to ALL-IN-1.  If the GPC member name is
different, the mail for that user goes to VMS mail.

We also found that MM sends mail to all the members except the user doing the MM
function.  Is this intended?

Dave
2276.3trace logsOASS::OASS::BURDEN_DThis is a Studebaker YearThu Aug 26 1993 19:4940
I have a trace log from the customer and it appears that GOC is designed to skip
the sender when doing an MCM - here are pieces of the trace log, the first with
a user that gets the mail and the second with the sender not getting it.

![SYMBOL] Symbol: #OAN_ADDRESS, Value: OBOA::DMSTCLAIR
![SYMBOL] Symbol: #OAN_CHECK_USER, Value: OBOA::LCWILSON
![SCRIPT] IF Operation starting
![SCRIPT] .IF condition #OAN_ADDRESS EQS #OAN_CHECK_USER  is FALSE
![SCRIPT] Null ELSE clause detected
![SCRIPT] OAN$MAIL_MEMBERS Line 29: OA$FAO NOTES$_MCM_SENDING_MAIL, "OA$DISPLAY"
!               , #OAN_MEMBER
![FUNC]   Function: OA$FAO, Cmd line: NOTES$_MCM_SENDING_MAIL, "OA$DISPLAY", #OA
!               N_MEMBER
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$FAO          NOTES$_MCM_SENDING_MAIL
!               , "OA$DISPLAY", #OAN_MEMBER
![SYMBOL] Symbol: NOTES$_MCM_SENDING_MAIL, Value: Addressing message to member !
!               AS
![SYMBOL] Symbol: "OA$DISPLAY", Value: OA$DISPLAY
![SYMBOL] Symbol: #OAN_MEMBER, Value: dmstclair
!


![SYMBOL] Symbol: #OAN_ADDRESS, Value: OBOA::LCWILSON
![SYMBOL] Symbol: #OAN_CHECK_USER, Value: OBOA::LCWILSON
![SCRIPT] IF Operation starting
![SCRIPT] .IF condition #OAN_ADDRESS EQS #OAN_CHECK_USER  is TRUE
![SCRIPT] THEN Operation starting
![SCRIPT] OAN$MAIL_MEMBERS Line 28: .GOTO LOOP_FOR_AN_ADDRESS
![SCRIPT] OAN$MAIL_MEMBERS Line 23: NEXT_LIST "OA$TEMP:OAN_MCM_MEMBERS.TMP"
![FUNC]   Function: NEXT_LIST, Cmd line: "OA$TEMP:OAN_MCM_MEMBERS.TMP"
![A1LOG]  Entry: %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: NEXT_LIST       "OA$TEMP:OAN_MCM_MEMBER
!               S.TMP"
![SYMBOL] Symbol: "OA$TEMP:OAN_MCM_MEMBERS.TMP", Value: OA$TEMP:OAN_MCM_MEMBERS.
!               TMP
![SCRIPT] OAN$MAIL_MEMBERS Line 24: .IF $NEXT_LIST_ITEM EQS "" THEN .GOTO CLOSE_
!               MESSAGE
![SYMBOL] Symbol: $NEXT_LIST_ITEM, Value: terry                         OBOA::DM
 

But why do I get mail when I send it from GPC under ALL-IN-1 V3.0?
2276.4More information pleaseIOSG::MAURICEDifferently hirsuteFri Aug 27 1993 12:0723
    Hi,
    
    I've had a look at the MCM script, and there is code in there to try
    and omit the sender from the addressee list. Here are some questions
    for you:
    
    1. Are you saying that in some circumstances the sender does in fact
       get put on the addressee list?
    
    2. I didn't understand .8 (my fault not yours). Can you expand by 
       giving examples where the behaviour differs. For the example can you
       give:
    
    	ALL-IN-1 user name
    	VMS account name
    	Conference Member Name
    	Mail Address (as shown on index of conference members)
        Mail address actually put on mail message
        Mail address which you think should be put on the message
       
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
2276.5OASS::OASS::BURDEN_DThis is a Studebaker YearFri Oct 08 1993 17:3228
This is the info for when LCWILSON was doing an MCM from GPC:

VMS User	ALL-IN-1 User	GPC Member	Mail		Mail?
dmstclair	dmstclair	donna		oboa::dmstclair	VMS mail
lcwilson	lcwilson	lcwilson	oboa::lcwilson	no mail
trainee2	trainee2	trainee2	oboa::trainee2	ALL-IN-1 mail

(we also found that changing GPC member name 'donna' to 'dmstclair' made her
receive that mail through ALL-IN-1)

The message in the OUTBOX had these two address on it:

to: donna	(dmstclair@oboa@mrgate)
to: lynn wilson	(trainee2)

From VAX Notes, all three users had VMS accounts as their mail address and mail
went to all three users.

From ALL-IN-1 EM a message was sent to the following users:

to: donna 	(dmstclair)
to: trainee2	(trainee2)
to: dmstclair	(dmstclair)
to: lcwilson	(lcwilson)


Sorry for the delay in getting this info to you,
Dave
2276.6GIDDAY::BURTScythe my dandelions down, sportTue Apr 12 1994 06:431
In case anyone is interested, the problem in .0 is corrected via the MUP