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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2217.0. "*WISH* Trapping broadcast messages and display option" by BUSHIE::SETHI (Man from Downunder) Fri Feb 05 1993 02:23

    Hi All,
    
    I was just thinking (some may say for the first time !!!) about the
    topic entered here regarding the trapping of broadcast messages via the
    REPLY DCL command and the /broadcast_handling qualifier.
    
    I would like to add to the wish list the following:
    
    ALL-IN-1 when invoked with the /broadcast_handling qualifier the
    ALL-IN-1 View Messages is displayed automagically on the users screen.
    For example, a message is broadcast ALL-IN-1 does an interupt and
    displays the message box on the screen with the text of the broadcast
    message.
    
    It maybe also a good idea to have a switch to disable the displaying of
    the message box by doing the following /broadcast_handling=noforce.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
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2217.1Full design spec please :-)IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeFri Feb 05 1993 11:224
    Um, how would this work if you were in an editor? Especially if it
    wasn't one of ours?
    
    Graham
2217.2Ugh!HORLIX::paulI'm pink therefore I'm SPAMFri Feb 05 1993 13:365
    Well, I don't like this idea at all - it's too intrusive for me (I'm
    assuming you'd have to do something to get rid of the message box.)

    FWIW,
        Paul.
2217.3It's ment to be intrusive BUT can be turned offBUSHIE::SETHIMan from DownunderMon Feb 08 1993 04:5227
    Hi Graham and Paul,                 
    
    RE: .2
    
    >Well, I don't like this idea at all - it's too intrusive for me(I'm
    >assuming you'd have to do something to get rid of the message box.)
    
    Don't forget that the /broadcast_handler=noforce will disable the
    message box from being displayed, so if users are worried about it
    being too intrusive it can be turned off.  To get rid of the box just
    enter screen exit.
    
    re: 1
    
    We can display the Interupt Menu from within an editor both WPS-PLUS and
    WordPerfect, so I don't see why the Message Box could not be displayed. 
    If this is not possible perhaps the message text should only be
    displayed on line 24, while the user is in the editor.
    
    The reason why I put forward this suggestion is that when I was working
    at a large site we were hoping that this facility would become avaiable.  
    In an emergency we had to shutdown the system it would be a good facility 
    to force users to read the message.
    
    Well that's all for now,
    
    Sunil
2217.4More details of your design please :-)IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeMon Feb 08 1993 21:1013
    We can display the interrupt menu from within those editors, because
    the writers of those editors chose to write code to do so. If we
    invented some new functionality for broadcasts, all the editor writers
    would have to fix it too.
    
    What we (OA$MAIN) need is a way to catch the broadcast even when the
    editor has control of terminal I/O, and display it somewhere, which
    will look OK regardless of what is on the screen, won't mess up the
    screen, can be overpainted by whatever is using the screen without it
    having to do any new code, and can be ignored if people don't want to
    acknowledge it....
    
    Graham
2217.5Thinking thinking ...BUSHIE::SETHIMan from DownunderTue Feb 09 1993 05:0618
    Hi Graham,             
    
    I will go into thinking mode, hopefully I will put my idea's forward in
    a reply here.  I knew that the editor will be the problem area and
    guess what .... I wanted to put my head in the sand ;-).
    
    The interesting part would be the displaying of the message when a user
    is in the editor.  Also rather than using EXIT SCREEN a CONTROL W or R to 
    refresh the screen would be a better idea.
    
    This and next week I will have my skates on finnishing off my
    presentation on DEC MAILworks.  Than the dreaded day arrives on the
    22nd, I'll either be a start or gobbled up :-).  So if you don't hear
    from me you know why.
    
    Regards,
    
    Sunil
2217.6How about a background task to handle the message ?BUSHIE::SETHIMan from DownunderMon Feb 22 1993 03:4321
    Hi Graham,
    
    I can only think of a background task that traps the broadcaste message
    and displays a Window on the users terminal.  The editors would not
    have to be changed to handle this as the task would do an interupt of
    the main process before displaying the window than exit leaving the
    windown on the screen.  The user would enter control W or R to refresh the
    window.
    
    >can be ignored if people don't want to acknowledge it....              
    
    The whole point of having this was to force people to take notice of
    it.  Like the system will be shutdown in 5 mins please logoff or the
    building is burning please do a runner ;0) type of messages.
    
    I don't know if the above would be possible but it would be a nice
    feature to have.  Maybe it's alot of work for a nice feature !!!!
    
    Regards,                                                         
    
    Sunil