| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 4343 |
| Total number of notes: | 18308 |
Also posted in dectrace, any feedback welcome
This a question about a1perf reports, cust has several concerns which
I've listed below. If anybopdy knows the answer, or a better notesfile
to ask in I'd welcome the feedback! Thanks, Simon
When metering is turned on, and collecting is disabled, users get
"dectracing is not enabled" each time they cross a collection point.
How to disable this message?
o Cust needs to collect 15 minute snippets of info, but A1 only seems
to register at login time. How to either run A1RPTS and specify a
time interval, or have people logged in continuously.
{this is the biggie question}
o Cust turns metering to 0 or 4, are there any other values?
{its NASA, they're alwaysthis nosey!}
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| 2180.1 | CSC32::S_MAUFE | yessir, the natives are revolting! | Fri Jan 29 1993 19:09 | 8 | |
for the second question, does ALL-IN-1 attempt to register with
DECtrace ONLY when the user first signs in, or does it do in a
continual basis. Otherwise if the user signs in at 9am, and the
collection starts at 10am then the user will not be collected.
Thanks ! Simon
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| 2180.2 | IOSG::DAVIS | Mark Davis | Mon Feb 01 1993 13:54 | 27 | |
I don't have a system with DECtrace installed to test this on but I
think the answers to your questions are as follows:-
ALL-IN-1 will check the value of the logical only when the user first
enters ALL-IN-1. The consequence of this is that a user will not be
traced if OA$MET_METER_SWITCH is defined after the user has logged in.
Moreover if the DECtrace is stopped while a user being traced is still
logged in then he will continue to get the annoying error messages you
mentioned. There is no way to stop them.
DECtrace collects and stores every action it traces so theoretically
you should be able to break down the usage for any period you like. The
DECtrace conference may help you with this.
You can set OA$MET_METER_SWITCH to other values - these are described
somewhere in the ALL-IN-1 documentation (system management). The other
values alow you to collect the performance indicators by means of
ALL-IN-1 metering without the need of DECtrace or RDB. The drawback is
that the data produced is not in a readable format and you have to
write your own programs to make sense of it as well as devise your own
means of archiving.
Mark
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| 2180.3 | CSC32::S_MAUFE | this space for rent | Fri Aug 06 1993 23:39 | 29 | |
lucky me, another large ALL-IN-1 customer hit the same three concerns,
1. EPC-W-DISABLED, gets this message when a user has started collecting
and then midway through the collection it gets cancelled. Then users
get the message at every switchover point
2. OA$MET_METER_SWITCH is examined only when the user enters ALL-IN-1,
cust would like it examined more frequently, so users don't have to
log out and in to be collected.
3. Could A1PERFs be enhanced to show the average elapsed time for each
event, rather than just a total time?
I kind of agree with the customer that these are annoying habits and
that the two products could work better together. For (1) ACMS when it
gets the return status from an EPC$ call should ignore it. Why? Because
dectrace is a performance tool that should be in the background and
never affect the end user(of which this customer has 3000!). (2) is
also a problem, as my customer can't ask all his users to log out and
in just to monitor them.
What I'm hoping is to hear that ALL-IN-1 has a patch, or will be
changed in a future version to accomodate these changes. If not then
I'll probably be asked by the customer to escalate the call so we can
get these changes in.
Any response welcome! Thanks ! Simon
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