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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2041.0. "SENDER re-try count exceeded" by HKOVC::TERENCE (From Middlesex, UWO) Wed Jan 06 1993 06:58

Could somebody please explain what does the following error mean:

    REASON: %EMD-I-SEND_COUNT_EXCE, SENDER re-try count exceeded

One of my ALL-IN-1 user sent a mail to site A and received the following
message from the postmaster at site B:

    Subject: Send Failure Notification

    ALL-IN-1 was unable to send your message off node posted on
    Message titled: RE: DEIL Offshore Claim

    REASON: %EMD-I-SEND_COUNT_EXCE, SENDER re-try count exceeded

    Any local deliveries have been made.

    Please contact your system manager for more information.

I am the system manager but I don't know what to do with it :-(

Thanx in advance

Regards, Terence

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2041.1Some things to checkFORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOWed Jan 06 1993 10:5118
It looks as if the Sender has been unable to to generate a correct message to 
ship to Message Router. If the sender fails on a message it leaves it on its 
queue, and retries (originally wrote 'retires' there!) 10 (default) times.

Initially you could look at the SENT message in the user's FileCab and see if 
there is anything unusual about it - attachments with strange Data Types 
perhaps?

There may well be errors in OA$MTI_ERR - probably one for each attempt the 
sender made. Start looking at a time soon after the user's Posted date.

And possibly .NBS files in OA$MTI_DATA - if MR is complaining that the message 
is badly formatted (see error msgs in OA$MTI_ERR), then you could run 
MRNBSDMP on the .NBS files to get more info.

That lot should get you started - good luck!

grahame
2041.2A bit more to Grahame'sIOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO2-G/M6Wed Jan 06 1993 16:3514
    In theory, it should have sent you (account MANAGER) a message telling
    you what the filenames are of the .NBS files in OA$MTI_DATA. However,
    this doesn't always work (depends on the ALL-IN-1 version, which you
    didn't state in .0), and anyway there may not be any .NBS files,
    depending where in the sender code it was failing.
    
    You can obviously use $DIR/DATE (or /SINCE=...) to find the .NBS files,
    if any.
    
    These errors are most often caused by a failure in the dataset action
    routine ("DSDAB") which is called to build the text part of the
    message. Do you have any custom DSABs on this system (WordPerfect?)
    
    Dave.
2041.3HKOVC::TERENCEFrom Middlesex, UWOFri Jan 08 1993 02:278
    That message was sent to 3 persons and only 1 got bounced back. Could that
    be a problem on the recipient's side? One interesting point is that, the
    message was supposed to be sent to site A but the error message was sent
    back from site B.

    Regards, Terence

2041.4Re-read original note - some things to tryIOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO2-G/M6Fri Jan 08 1993 11:4813
    Check at the (failing) recipient's end:
    
    - can s/he receive any mail? Local mail (from other users on that
    node)?
    
    - has s/he got autoforward set? If so, is set to a valid address, or is
    there something "funny" in there (distribution list, garbage address)?
    
    - is his/her profile.NODE field blank (or = to his/her nodename)? If
    there's a "funny" nodemane in this field (for example, site-B), things
    go wrong.
    
    D.