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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1986.0. "queue management and identifiers not being removed" by YUPPY::DEWINTER (Chocolate?, Yeah!) Thu Dec 17 1992 16:51

    Are there any known problems with queue management that I have missed
    up to now?
    
    During my teach this week we had lots of problems with the identifiers
    that were put on the queue for manageging purposes. When we applied an
    identifier (through the menu options obviously) and removed it again,
    it would not be properly removed from the queue and therefore the
    control privilege on the queue didn't change. We tried this with
    single control on separate queues and complete control over all queues
    and it happened in all these cases that the identifiers were not
    properly removed or changed?
    
    Is this known behaviour or am I doing something wrong?
    
    Thanks for any help.
    Regards,
    Arjen
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1986.1group id stays on queueIOSG::TYLDESLEYMon Dec 21 1992 11:3611
Hello Arjen,

We have no problems open against QMA. Can you give more details of what you
mean by "...we applied an identifier ...and removed it again,...". When you
give someone queue management authorization, they become members of a queue
management group. The group identifier is placed on the queue. It is not 
(as I recall) intended to be removed when a single member is removed from a 
qm group.

Cheers,
DaveT
1986.2we tried all combinationsYUPPY::DEWINTERChocolate?, Yeah!Tue Dec 22 1992 09:5116
    Dave,
    
    Thanks for replying.
    
    The problem I described occured for a single user. Through the normal
    menu's we gave a user privileges to monitor/control a queue. This
    worked fine. Then we took, again through the menu's, this privilege
    away, and it still was allowed to control/monitor that queue. (And we
    logged the user in and out to reset privileges, but that didn't seem to
    matter.) We tried it both with a single user on a single queue and a
    single user on all queues, but encountered the same problem.
    
    Regards,
    Arjen
1986.3few exploratory questions..IOSG::TYLDESLEYTue Dec 22 1992 10:549
    Hello again Arjen. Few more questions I'm sorry!
    . can you reproduce the problem now on a system where you are?
    . was it one specific user or several?
    . did you check e.g. through Group Services, whether the user was
      removed from the queue management group?
    . were there any error messages when you did the RMQ of the user from 
      the management group e.g."Error found deleting ACE or ACL"
    Hartelijke gefeliciteerd (or something similar!)
    DaveT
1986.4sorry YUPPY::DEWINTERChocolate?, Yeah!Mon Jan 11 1993 16:5118
    Hi Dave,
    
    sorry to have been so long, but I've been on holiday in the mean time
    and have only come back today.
    
    At the moment I haven't got a system to work on so that will make it a
    bit difficult to answer your questions. As far as I can recall none of
    the things mentioned by you was happening. It all happened during a
    demo during the course. I'm sure they weren't removed from the group
    and there were no problems with the ACL. The strange thing was that you
    could get it to work in both ways, but you couldn't just change it
    afterwards.
    
    I'll try again next week, when I have a V3.0 system available.
    
    Thanks for your help anyway.
    Arjen
1986.5User Queue ManagementLARVAE::DARRALL_DDurelli, Gripping Stuff !!!Mon Dec 13 1993 17:0822
    I seem to be noticing some problems along similar lines.
    
    I have a user who does not appear in in any management group according
    to IMG in QMA. Yet is in a group according to Group Services.
    
    If I try and select individual queues using the ASQ option I go into a
    tight loop.
    
    I have set the user up to manage all queues and he does pick up the two
    identifiers (one oa$user_qm and  the one that as been applied to all
    queues on the system).  He then goes into UQM forms, does and index of
    queues and then a <next screen> and again the process goes into a tight
    loop.
    
    Also is there any way of removing the identifier from the queues on the
    system ?
    
    This is a 5.5-2 system.
    
    Any ideas anyone ?
    
    Dave Darrall
1986.6$HELP SET ACL....IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeThu Dec 16 1993 13:246
    <<< Also is there any way of removing the identifier from the queues on the
    <<< system ?
    
    SET ACL/OBJ=QUEUE/ACL=OA$G_Z..../DELETE <Queue_name>
    
    Graham