| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 4343 |
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I don't know much about this product and I use VAXmail but I had a customer, Bechtel, ask some questions. The customer mentioned that he had talked with Beverly Shultz (sp on the lastname). Customer wants to know if ALL-IN-1 IOS is a client/server application? Are the Mail Server, File Cabinet, and Calendar client/server-based? He mentioned that at some previous DECUS functions talking to the PM and Engineers and they indicated that this product was moving in this direction. They have a VAX 6410 with 600 TE user's and they can't be logged in CONSTANTLY and they want this requirement. They will be going to an additional 300 users and want to maintain the connects. I guess after some pre-allocated time you get logged out. They feel that a C/S implementation would solve this restriction. Also, if we will have a C/S implementation on the File Cabinets what is the 'authorization' mechanism for granting privleges to users. More importantly how is the delete authorization going to be implemented. They want users to be able to access, read, and write to the file cabinets but need some protections on the delete. Is there some document that we have that I can give to this customer? do you know if TeamLinks is what they should be looking for on their PCs to front the IOS application? thanks kam
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| 1919.1 | You'll need some help | A1VAX::GUEST13 | Tue Dec 08 1992 20:21 | 17 | |
Kam, ALL-IN-1 is at least partly client-server and it is moving in that direction. TeamLinks is certainly something they should consider. See if you can find an Office sales support person in your area who hasn't been TFSO'd. (Barbara Lanci? Dave Haack? Susan Bailey up in LA?) It's going to take some positioning and some help for you to fully answer the customer's concerns and questions about ALL-IN-1. Good luck! Karl Barth (in transition) Reach me at A1VAX::GUEST13 for my remaining 2 days at DEC | |||||
| 1919.2 | A LITTLE info on IOS and C/S | CHRLIE::HUSTON | Wed Dec 09 1992 14:59 | 32 | |
Kam,
ALL-IN-1 IOS is moving towards client/server, the filecabinet today
is partly client/server technology. With V3 of IOS, you get a
distributed file cabinet, this is achieved via the File Cabinet Server,
which is a true client/server application. The server portion is
bundled with IOS and runs only on VMS. The client portion is basically
a callable API that runs on VMS/Ultrix/UtlrixMIPS/MS-Dos/MS_Windows
and soon the MAC. This client portion comes with both IOS and
TeamLinks.
As for authorization mechanisms, I can only speak for the FCS, but it
is achieved by a combination of VMS password validation and proxies
between server nodes. In other words, when you connect to the FCS you
specify a VMS account and password. If you later attempt to access a
file cabinet object that lives on a different node, the FCS "brokers"
the call on your behalf to the proper FCS on a different node. The
authentication between servers is done via VMS default proxies. Note
that this server-server communication/authentication is done without
the end user knowing it is occuring.
Enforcing READ/DELETE/??? authorization is done by using the
authentication username (either from connect or proxy) and checking for
VMS access tothe files in question.
If you customer wants to hook PCs into the IOS file cabinet, then
TL is the way to go. As .1 said you should track down a sales person
who can properly position all this for you for the client.
--Bob
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| 1919.3 | BRUMMY::MARTIN::BELL | Martin Bell, TCC, Birmingham UK | Wed Dec 09 1992 15:54 | 26 | |
Kam, there is a lot more client/server in ALL-IN-1 IOS than you might at first think. Group Conferencing is a standard part of ALL-IN-1 IOS, and is very much a client/server product, with clients for ALL-IN-1, VT terminals, Motif and Microsoft Windows. Videotex, although an additional product to base ALL-IN-1 is again a full client/server solution, and the client is free for VT terminals (i.e. ALL-IN-1), and also available under Motif and Microsoft Windows. Of course, the File Cabinet has become client server in the latest release, and the Time Management sub-system has a lot of client/server-ish sfuff built in. To be honest, ALL-IN-1 IOS is probably more client/server based than many of the offerings that our competitors are waving! What's more is that things will get even better, but by evolution and not revolution. Just a few thoughts, mb | |||||
| 1919.4 | client/server | AIMTEC::BUTLER_T | Wed Dec 09 1992 18:48 | 4 | |
Also, the script symbiont is a client/server thingy even if not
stated as such.
Tim
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