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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1883.0. "Cannot RENAME accounts if using concealed devices!" by VELI::KORKKO (Used to be VMS mangler, now ALL-IN-1...) Tue Dec 01 1992 13:13

Renaming an ALL-IN-1 account fails if account resides on "concealed device".

E.g. account XXXX resides on DEV$FIN:[XXXX] where

	DEV$FIN		= 	USERX:[FIN.]


Renaming account fails due script SM_RENAME thinking that DEV$FIN would not
be valid device name! 

!+
! Validate the device
!-
.TEXT "Validate the device name from the ALL-IN-1 directory"

        GET #old_user_dir_dummy = #old_a1_directory
        GET_TOKEN #old_user_dir_dummy, #user_dev, ":"
        GET #old_user_dir_dummy = #user_dev ":[000000]000000.DIR"
        .IF OA$DIR:#old_user_dir_dummy.%WHOLE[#old_user_dir_dummy] EQS '' -
        THEN .GOTO invalid_device


Temporary fix is to create a dymmy 000000.dir on directory USERX:[FIN]. Same 
kind of bug used to prevent creation of SFCP account on concealed device!


Best regards, veli
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name		DateLines
1883.1No can doSCOTTC::MARSHALLI'd rather be skiingTue Dec 01 1992 14:2612
ALL-IN-1 is not officially supported with rooted logicals / concealed devices /
whatever-you-want-to-call-them.

There are several parts of ALL-IN-1 that will fail, as ALL-IN-1 constructs
its own rooted logicals for things (most notably Transfer User).  VMS does not
allow (rather unhelpfully, IMVHO)
    dev:[dir.][dir.]...
so it all goes horribly wrong.

Guess that isn't the answer you wanted, but that's the way it is.

Scott
1883.2I thought it was just a bugIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Wed Dec 02 1992 07:589
    
    	I know we don't support installing the whole ALL-IN-1 system onto
    	a rooted logical, but I thought having users on a rooted logical
    	was okay. (VMS encourage you to do so).
    
    	Obviously not.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
1883.3Customers not good at telepathyAIMTEC::WICKS_ASoon: warm beer, football, rainWed Dec 02 1992 20:3112
    Re .1, .2,
    
    Either way since it isn't officially documented that you can or can't
    use rooted logicals the customer is entitled to try it and expect it
    to work.
    
    Sounds like the PFR version of the Management Guide could be improved
    to clarify this situation.
                  
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1883.4Fix the code rather than documentation1VELI::KORKKOUsed to be VMS mangler, now ALL-IN-1...Sun Dec 13 1992 09:2312
        We have been long using rooted logicals especially for user
        accounts. I can cope with products that cannot be installed on
        concealed devices. (Means that I have learned from failed
        installation :-()
        
        Please, make the right thing. Make ALL-IN-1 work with rooted
        logicals! It works 99% of time.
        
        Do NOT make me and MANY others to change how we have configured
        zillions of accounts!
        
        Veli