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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1828.0. "Problem with profile conversion" by ISTWI1::YEGEN () Sat Nov 21 1992 22:17

I have problems with upgrade to v3.0 in the post installation phase 
the following messages are displayed :

Converting V2.4 PROFIL records for Customization Management...
%OA-E-DBEOR, Error opening V24_PROFIL - File A1SYS:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]V2;
-OA-E-BADRECSIZE, Record size for file does not match form
%OA-I-LASTLINE"ALL-IN-1 running -- Converting user profile data file"
%OA-E-DBEOR, Error opening V24_PROFIL - File A1SYS:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]V2;
-OA-E-BADRECSIZE, Record size for file does not match form
%OA-I-NOCNVFILE, Version 1.0 file not found
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
.
.
.

And after a while the ivp terminated. I do not know what to do, any help would 
be appreciated. I have the profile.fdl and profile.dat from the old version.

Best regards,
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1828.1Restore the original version of profile .dat and .fdlGIDDAY::SETHIMan from DownunderSun Nov 22 1992 22:4315
    Hi,
    
    Did you have an ASSET install on your system ?  I know of one asset
    that increased the size of profile.dat by 1 byte, unfortunately I can
    not remember the name of the asset !
    
    Before doing the upgrade you should have saved the PROFILE.DAT and the
    .FDl's and replaced them with the uncustomized versions.  That all I
    can rememeber maybe someone else can add a bit more.
    
    The pre-installation checks may have something on it.
    
    Good luck
    
    Sunil
1828.2Agreed!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeMon Nov 23 1992 11:1916
    The CART run (you did do that didn't you??!!) should have told you that
    you'd customisedthe PROFIL forms. Unless whatever the ASSET is that
    Sunil mentioned didn't use Customisation Management to change the
    forms...
    
    In any case, Sunil's advice is sound. Remove any customised versions of
    the PROFIL forms or FDLs and do the postinstall again.
    
    I'm slightly confused by one of the error messages you displayed,
    perhaps they just got cut off in thelog:
    
    <<%OA-E-DBEOR, Error opening V24_PROFIL - File A1SYS:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]V2;
    
    I assume the "V2" at the end was actually V24_PROFIL.
    
    Graham
1828.3ISTWI1::YEGENMon Nov 23 1992 14:4622
    Graham,             
    
    Thank you very much for your reply. I discovered that profile.dat had a
    Record format:      Fixed length 1943 byte records, which should have
    been 1944. And my colague told me that he had converted the profile.dat
    after he had installed LAP-1 (which was an asset and it was written as
    the post installation task in the manual). So I found the original
    profile.fdl (with record size=1944) and made a
    
    CONVERT/FDL=PROFILE.FDL/pad=" " V24_PROFILE.DAT PROFILE.DAT
    
    and run the postinstallation again and it worked out.
    But I really do not know hoe ALL-IN-1 have read profile records until
    that time with a different record size in profile.fdl and profile form.
    
    Best regards,
    
    And thank you very much as usual since this have been maybe 1000th help 
    that I got from you.
    
    Tansu YEGEN
    
1828.4Mobilizer too?SIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindMon Nov 23 1992 15:198
    LAP-1 forced people to convert the profile to 1943 byte records? 
    Sounds like they a program with fixed data structures to map the
    profile!  But it's also a little extreme to tell people to convert
    backwards to 1943 (from V2.4's 1944 size) after an upgrade has already
    converted a file.  Does Mobilizer (the descendent of LAP-1) include
    this anti-social behaviour too?
    
    Tony
1828.5ISTWI1::YEGENMon Nov 23 1992 15:5712
    What a pity but yes, because my colague also checked also the
    profile.fdl which was in the LAP-1 dirctory and which had a record
    size of 1943. I had to spend the whole Sunday until I found that. 
    
    But now I have some other problems, especially related to printers
    which do not print turkish any more. Can I get in contact with somebody
    who is willing to help me, because I am lost in printer tables and
    ALL-IN-1 v3.0. 
    
    Thank you very much for your help,
    
    Tansu YEGEN @TWI
1828.6New record size check in V3.0IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeMon Nov 23 1992 17:119
    Presumably LAP-1 is hardwired to support the V2.3 profile size...
    
    The reason this worked in V2.4 is that we added a new check in V3.0
    that would signal an error if the record size that we got from RMS
    wasn't the same as the entry form defined.
    
    Graham
    
    PS Glad to be of help!
1828.7Mobilizer documentation wrongKERNEL::HOULDINGJJill Houlding - Back in BasingstokeWed Nov 25 1992 10:5418
	Yes there is a danger that the PROFILE.DAT record size might be wrong
	because of Mobilizer (or LAP-1) installation.

	The Moblizer Installation Guide is far from clear in this area:
	instructions are included which indicate that PROFILE.DAT should 
	be (RMS) converted using a .FDL file provided with the Mobilizer kit.
	The problem is that this .FDL file is only compatible with ALL-IN-1 V2.3
	AND there is no need for the conversion on versions of ALL-IN-1 later
	than this.

	(The conversion is to create the VMS username as a secondary key to 
	PROFILE.DAT - this is standard practice on ALL-IN-1 versions since V2.3

	These instructions should be changed in the future.

	Cheers

	Jill
1828.8Data file <=> FDLDUBSWS::EIJSWed Nov 25 1992 17:2511
    
    Hi Tansu,
    
    I don't think it is strange the access to PROFIL never brought any
    errors, as (as far as I know) an FDL in the ;;.FILE;; directive is only
    used when creating the data file. Once done, it doesn't need it any
    longer. So, they're related, much not as much/strict as you think.
    
    Ciao,
    
    	Simon