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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1824.0. "Urgen!! Transfer account failed" by PASVC::STEVENTAM (Steven Tam @PAS) Fri Nov 20 1992 15:56

I want to transfer an account from one ALLIN1 to another.
They are both running V2.4.

In the origin system, I have prepared the account for transfer
by using MUA PAT.

On the target system, I firstly create an account for this transfer.
Then I run MUA MAS to transfer the account from the origin system.
But the job failed.

The error in the logfile is:
-----------------------------------
$       copy oa$loaduser:[BRIAN_HO]mas_success.wrk PASV02"A1$XFER_OUT"::oa$tran
%COPY-E-OPENOUT, error opening PASV02"A1$XFER_OUT"::OA$TRANSFER:[000000]OA$_BRI
-RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed
-SYSTEM-F-EXDISKQUOTA, disk quota exceeded
%COPY-W-NOTCOPIED, OA$LOADUSER:[BRIAN_HO]MAS_SUCCESS.WRK;1 not copied
----------------------



My questions are:

1. If the transfer can be continued, what is the next step?

2. If the transfer cannot be continued, how to recover on both systems?
   2.1 How to delete the account on the target system?  Does this affect
	other existing users on that target system?
   2.2 How to recover the original account on the origin system?
   2.3 How to delete those files that have been restored in the shared
       directories and related system files on the target system?
   2.4 Can I use CTN to recover the account on the origin system?

I'm now in a dead end.  Your suggestion is very helpful to me!!!

Your idea is very appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
Steven.
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1824.1Increase Disk QuotaAIMTEC::BUTLER_TFri Nov 20 1992 16:1211
    Steven,
    
    I would increase the disk quota on the target account and run the
    the transfer over.  The original account sould still be there.
    
    You may to clean up anything in the target account. 
    
    Hopefully, one of the system mangler types will confirm this.
    
    
    Tim
1824.2How to clean up in target system?PASVC::STEVENTAMSteven Tam @PASFri Nov 20 1992 16:2522
Hi Tim,

Thanks for your reply!

I'll increase the quota of A1$XFER_OUT in the origin system 
(because the logfile shows that the target system wants to copy a 
file back to the origin system and the A1$XFER_OUT on
origin system does not have sufficient quota)

But, You say clean up anything in target account, do I delete the 
account on the target system is right? does this cause trouble 
to other existing accounts?

Overall, if I understand right, you mean the steps are:

1. Increase the quota on origin system.
2. Delete the target account.
3. Retry the transfer.

Am I right?

Steven.
1824.3increase quota and set-up targetAIMTEC::BUTLER_TFri Nov 20 1992 16:3415
    Steven,
    
    Just make the target system look the same as when you started the
    transfer.
    
    As to increasing disk quota, now I see what you mean. Yes, increase
    it.  You may want to check the account on the target system to insure
    it has enough disk quota, also.
    
    Then you should be able to run the transfer as before.
    
    
    HTH,
    
    Tim
1824.4How to set up target account?PASVC::STEVENTAMSteven Tam @PASFri Nov 20 1992 16:4224
Tim,

Thank you very much...That's very kind of you.

But I want to confirm something.

I've looked at the target account.  Inside it, there are
a lot of mails which some of the status are ARCHIVED and some are
READ, UNSENT, etc.

Can the system handle this account deletion?

How about the files in shared directories?  Are they deleted
accordingly when I invoke the account deletion?

And also how about the ALL-IN-1 system files, such as DAF.DAT, etc.?
Can they be updated correctly?

Since the target system contains a lot of users and I want to confirm
these actions does not cause any harm to them.

Would you help me?

Steven.
1824.5Check DiskquotaMIMS::MORABITO_PFri Nov 20 1992 17:5711
    Steven,
            I recommend you delete the transferred in user account through
    ALL-IN-1, and then check to make sure that the disk you are bring
    the account onto has a disk quota entry for ALLIN1.  If it does
    already have a quota entry, make it a very large number.  Then
    do your MAS again.  
    
    Delete User will update the DAF, but it doesn't look like you ever
    got to the point where the file cabinet was updated.
    
    
1824.6increase quota and deleteMIMS::MORABITO_PFri Nov 20 1992 18:0318
    Steven,
    
    From the log file did the transfer complete sucessfully?
    
    From your previous reply it does not look like it did.  Where 
    the files on the target system unarchived?
    
    either way you should call the local csc.  
    
    What Paul is telling you is that the delete user will put
    the account back to a state that we can confirm.
    
    Then you can check diskquota on BOTH system, increase it, and
    run the MAS again.
    
    HTH,
    
    Tim Butler
1824.7ThanksPASVC::STEVENTAMSteven Tam @PASSat Nov 21 1992 00:4422
re:.6

>>>    From the log file did the transfer complete sucessfully?

Ans.: The transfer is not success.

>>>    From your previous reply it does not look like it did.  Where 
>>>    the files on the target system unarchived?

Ans.: I login the target account and get into its ALLIN1 account,
      I found that the mails in the folder are most ARCHIVED.  Then 
      I show header (SH) and the files of all ARCHIVED mails are 
      OA$LIB:ARCHIVE.TXT.


BTW, I'll make sure the quota on both systems are enough.  Delete
the failed transferred account on target system and then run
MAS again.

Thanks a lot,

Steven.
1824.8** DON'T ** re-run the PATIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Mon Nov 23 1992 10:0716
    
    	A couple of the comments here "re-run the transfer" worry me here.
    	What ever you do:
    
    		**** DON'T RE-RUN THE PAT OPERATION ****
    
    	or your account could end up lost completely.
    
    	You can re-run the MAS, but PAT (on V2.4) writes to the source
    	account and is NOT restartable.
    
    	From what you say, you don't need to re-run the PAT operation
    	anyway, but I thought I would warn you.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
1824.9Re-run MAS only!PASVC::STEVENTAMSteven Tam @PASTue Nov 24 1992 02:3320
Thank you!  My procedures will be:

1. Delete the failed transfer account (A1) on the target system.

2. Rename the PAT_XZXXXX.DAT from OA$LOADUSER:[username]
   to OA$LOADUSER:[000000].

3. Delete the files in OA$LOADUSER:[username...]*.*;*

4. Increase the quota of A1$XFER_OUT on origin system and
   the quota of transfer account on target system.

5. Create the transfer account (A1) again on the target
   system.

6. Re-run MAS on target system.

Are the above steps right?

Steven.
1824.10Looks goodIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Tue Nov 24 1992 08:0411
    
    	Don't understand what (1) is trying to do.
    
    	(5) Create user can be done from MAS so you could roll (5) into (6)
    	but it may be simpler from an error tracking point of view to
    	do them seperately. I'd do them together, but its just taste.
    
    	Looks good.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
1824.11At wrong placePASVC::STEVENTAMSteven Tam @PASTue Nov 24 1992 09:5316
Thanks.

In .9, I found that the PAT .DAT will put under
OA$LOADUSER:[username] when doing MAS.

But back to the prepare account stage, if you prepare the account
on the origin system, the origin system will copy this file under 
OA$LOADUSER:[000000] and not under [username] on target system 
since no MAS has been performed yet.

So I rename the file back to [000000], just back to the beginning
stage before running MAS.

Am I right?

Steven.
1824.12Maybe I need glassesIOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Wed Nov 25 1992 08:089
    
>So I rename the file back to [000000], just back to the beginning
>stage before running MAS.

    	Don't think so. MAS looks in [000000] as well as far as I can see.
    	You should just be able to re-run the MAS without doing the rename.
    
    Regards,
    Paul