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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1802.0. "Spurious records in CM$SDC?" by ADOVS9::SYMON (inFamy Soon) Wed Nov 18 1992 13:02

    Every now and then I come across an element in CM$SDC whose file
    doesn't actually exist.  The most recent example was the DO script
    LNGSPLINI.  There are two entries in CM$SDC, one for SHARE and one for
    BRITISH, but only the SHARE one really exists.

    We are running V3.0 BRITISH, and the conversion of V2.4
    CM_SDC_ELEMENTS.DAT was successful.  Being an obsessively neat type, I
    had kinda hoped the conversion would clean up these odd records. ;-)
    Should/does/will CM$SDC ever reflect what is really there?  Is it just
    us?

    Fiona
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1802.1SIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Nov 18 1992 14:377
    Did you run the CART resolution procedure?  There's over 400 elements
    marked there with status code A.  This means that they are obsolete
    elements which are no longer included with the kit. The resolution for
    these elements is to delete their records from CM$SDC, thus cleaning up
    your system.
    
    Tony
1802.3Any FT kits? More Examples?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeWed Nov 18 1992 15:057
    How did you get from V2.4 to V3.0? Did you install any Field Test
    Baselevels?
    
    If not, could you give me a few examples of ones that are wrong, and
    I'll go and investigate what might have happened...
    
    Graham
1802.4WPS-PLUS v4?AIMTEC::WICKS_ALiverpool 4 Norwich 1Wed Nov 18 1992 17:3012
    GAP,
    
    By coincidence we took a v2.4 machine to v3.0 just this week - not one 
    that went through lots of FT baselevels (and yes we ran the CART)
    
    Apart from LNGSPLINI there's SHOW_LIPS, lNGSPLCONVERT, LNGSPLDEL
    (basically the spell checker stuff) though this system is also 
    reporting some duplicate FCS blps (we had WPS v4 and TCP on it!)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1802.5More informationADOVS9::SYMONinFamy SoonWed Nov 18 1992 17:5032
    Graham,
    
    > How did you get from V2.4 to V3.0? Did you install any Field Test
    > Baselevels?
    
    Upgraded from V2.4 (K602/no OAW024) to V3.0 PBL123A.
    
    > If not, could you give me a few examples of ones that are wrong, and
    > I'll go and investigate what might have happened...
    
    I just ran the following script:
    
        GET #FILE = "CM$SDC.LIS"
        TEXT_FILE OPEN OUT #FILE /WRITE
        FOR CM$SDC DO -
            GET #REC = .%WHOLE\\ -
            GET #SPEC = .DISK_LOCATION\\ -
            .IF FILE$.%WHOLE[#SPEC] EQS "" THEN -
                TEXT_FILE WRITE OUT #REC
        TEXT_FILE CLOSE OUT
        GET #FILE=#REC=#SPEC=""
    
    It found 139 elements!  I double-checked against the CART report, and
    they weren't in the A section.  Most of the ones I have looked at are
    the BRITISH one of a SHARE/BRITISH pair of the same name, so it might
    be a hangover from when the element was I18N'd.
    
    The listing is too big to include here, but if you like I will mail it
    to you.  Please don't spend valuable time on it - I was just being
    pedantic.  I'm well known for that down here! :-)
    
    Fiona
1802.6Is this a clue?AIMTEC::WICKS_ALiverpool 4 Norwich 1Wed Nov 18 1992 23:428
    GAP,
    
    On my system the list of elements appears to be a subset of
    the list of files in OA$LIB_SHARE:DELETE_OBSELETE_FILES.COM
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1802.7A hangover from V2.3?SIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindThu Nov 19 1992 08:5811
    Were either of the systems being discussed here upgraded along the
    following path:
    
    V2.3 --> V2.4 --> V3.0
    
    The reason I ask is that elements have been moved (normally from the
    language area into SHARE) at each of these upgrades.  The CART tries to
    take care of elements moved for V3.0, but some may be hanging around
    for V2.3.  At least, that's the current theory.
    
    Tony
1802.8Fresh V2.4 installationADOVS9::SYMONinFamy SoonMon Nov 23 1992 08:535
    I have finally found out that our system was a fresh V2.4 installation,
    not an upgrade from V2.3
    
    cheers,
    F
1802.9More elements, I'd like to remove them ...ZUR01::KURTHPeter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (CH)Wed Feb 03 1993 13:1722
    Ciao
    
    ALL-IN-1 V3.0-1 (1. German, 2. English).
    Upgraded from V2.4 (up to K605).

    CM ABE SEL (CM$SDC) shows three records for SM_SHUTDOWN.COM, for ENGLISH,
    GERMAN and SHARE.

    The file only exists in OA$LIB_SHARE.

    The procedure OA$LIB_SHARE:DELETE_MOVED_FILES.COM deletes
    SM_SHUTDOWN.COM from the LLV directories (called from A1$POSTINSTALL.COM).

    It seems, nobody removes these entries from CM$SDC (it's not
    CM_CART_SCRIPT_V30*).

    Has this problem been SPR'ed?

    What would be the manuall tasks to remove the entries from CM$SDC and
    any other related place in CM (sorry, I'm not a CM  expert)

    Thanks and regards, Peter
1802.10SIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Feb 03 1993 13:274
    The record is probably there because it was moved in V2.4.  Delete the 
    (German) record manually and all will be well.
    
    T