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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1765.0. "personal license" by UTRTSC::SMEETS (Martin Smeets DS SSO Utrecht (NL)) Thu Nov 12 1992 10:55

Hi,

I've two questions about personal licenses

1) A customer has a cluster and on some nodes they have a full ALL-IN-1 license
   and on a specific node of the cluster a personal license for 20 persons.
   This personal license equals 2000 points (LMF)
   When issue the command SM MAL UNA, "ALL-IN-1" says the contract limit is 200.
   Why is the value 200 and not 20 ?
   After creating 18 accounts on this node SM MAL UNA shows:
   Contract limit         : 200
   User account created   : 18
   User accounts available: 1986

   Mismatch of licenses ????

2) After classifying a utility account via SM MAL CUA the account is locked, is
   this the way it should work or is this a bug ?

Thank a lot,

Martin Smeets
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1765.1guru's awayIOSG::TYLDESLEYThu Nov 12 1992 17:2918
    Hi Martin,
    
    I'm sorry our licensing guru (Paul T.) is out at the moment. 
    He'll probably come back and correct me tomorrow! 
    I seem to recall, vaguely, something being wrong with the Personal 
    Licenses themselves on this version (which I assume to be V2.4?)
    I can only recall something about the LMF units issued being for
    '4 users only' and something about 'being out by a factor of 100'
    This may be the source of your problem. Perhaps someone else can give
    more solid information, because I can't find the release notes or
    wherever, in which I read this.
    
    All the MAL stuff was removed in V3.0. I am not sure about the locking
    of the account, but it sounds like the sort of thing that might be done
    to a utility account.
    
    Cheers
    daveT              
1765.2Yes, ALL-IN-1 V2.4UTRTSC::SMEETSMartin Smeets DS SSO Utrecht (NL)Thu Nov 12 1992 19:467
Hi Dave,

Yes, it's ALL-IN-1 V2.4 ?

What are the advantages of classifying utility accounts anyway ?

Martin
1765.3few!IOSG::TYLDESLEYFri Nov 13 1992 09:5615
    Martin,
    
    Back in those days, as well as (trying to!) limit the number of users
    on a Personal License, there was also code that checked, before a new
    user account was created, whether there were sufficient license units
    left, to permit another user. Excepted from this count were the
    so-called 'utility' accounts (IVP, POSTMASTER, etc.) so they did not 
    hit your account quota. This was, as far as I can see, the only benefit
    of being classified as a utility account. (Remember LMF checking does
    nothing in a mandatory fashion anyway - you could still go ahead and
    create the account, if you wished to override the warning). You will
    also find a Profile field - UTILITY - still present.
    
    	Groeten,
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1765.4Licensing V2.4/V3.0IOSG::TALLETTGimmee an Alpha colour notebook...Mon Nov 16 1992 10:3762
    Hi folks!

    Re: .0
    
>I've two questions about personal licenses
>
>1)When issue the command SM MAL UNA, "ALL-IN-1" says the contract limit is 200.
>   Why is the value 200 and not 20 ?
>   After creating 18 accounts on this node SM MAL UNA shows:
>   Contract limit         : 200
>   User account created   : 18
>   User accounts available: 1986
>
>   Mismatch of licenses ????

    
    	Yes, this is a bug in V2.4. Things get multiplied by 100 a bit in
    	V2.4. This is all different in V3.0.
    
    
>2) After classifying a utility account via SM MAL CUA the account is locked, is
>   this the way it should work or is this a bug ?
>
    
    	Not sure. I suspect this is the way it is supposed to work. Utility
    	accounts are typically for doing things like running multiple
    	sender/fetchers so you shouldn't be using them interactively.
    
    	RE: .1 My learn�d collegue:
    
>    All the MAL stuff was removed in V3.0. I am not sure about the locking
>    of the account, but it sounds like the sort of thing that might be done
>    to a utility account.
>    
    
    	The MAL stuff was removed, but not the classify accounts stuff.
    	This has moved to be off MSY Manage ALL-IN-1 System menu.
    
    	RE: .2
    
>What are the advantages of classifying utility accounts anyway ?

    	In V2.4, not a lot as the personal license checking gets it wrong
    	anyhow. In V3.0 classifying an account as utility means you don't
    	have to put the username in the license's reserve list. You are
    	supposed to use it for the same purposes as you did in V2.4, for
    	things like running multiple sender/fetcher. As for where you draw
    	the line on what is a utility account and what isn't, you could
    	probably get a number of opinions. The point is that if someone
    	were to audit your system, they could look at your personal license
    	and see a list of all the users that can use it, and this wouldn't
    	include your utility accounts.
    
    	RE: .3
    
    
>    You will also find a Profile field - UTILITY - still present.
    
    	and still used in V3.0! :-)
    
    Regards,
    Paul
1765.5Dave & Paul: Thanks for explaining !!UTRTSC::SMEETSMartin Smeets DS SSO Utrecht (NL)Mon Nov 16 1992 14:250