Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 4343 |
Total number of notes: | 18308 |
*** Overcoming paper size incompatibilities *** Hi, A customer of mine is experiencing a problem which, off the top of my head I can't think of an adequate solution to. As many other customers must have a similar scenario, I wondered if anyone out there could tell me if they know of a solution or whether its something to learn to live with. The problem is down to trans-atlantic mail/document exchange and the problems caused by diffrent paper sizes. Customer has two major sites, site A in the UK and site B in the USA. Users in Site A prepare all documents/mail using ALL-IN-1/WPS with printer tables adjusted to give 66 lines per A4 page. The vast majority of the mail is intra-site so this doesn't give a problem. However senior managers on site A send lots of reports/financial info to counterparts in Site B. They also use ALL-IN-1/WPS but obviously set up for a different paper size (A?) whixh is basically shorter and wider than A4. Consequently when the print stuff received from Site A it is wrongly formatted (re. page length) and conversely when users in site A send to site B it is printed in wrong format (re. page width). What they have asked me to look at is ways around this. I realise the easy answer (and sensible one) is to get the user to reformat it before printing. However, given the seniority of these perticular end-users this isn't deemed acceptable. some thoughts I've had; - Would Postscript offer a solution ? If documents were converted to PS final form (using V3.0), as postscript is a pseudo-imaging technology, when a document is converted does it retain its page settings ie. the fact that its A4, or does it just know that lines 1-x are a page and when it is printed at the receiving end, these x lines will be `imaged' so as to fit the `page' size of the destination printer ? - Is it possible to determine the formatting information of a WPL file so that we could use this within a script to do pre-processing before a print operation to modify as required ? Both the above are very much long shots, but if anyone can suggest anything else I'd be most grateful. Regards, John
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1578.1 | This might jog someone's memory | IOSG::SHOVE | Dave Shove -- REO-D/3C | Thu Oct 08 1992 12:42 | 6 |
I believe it's possible to do this by very slightly reducing the size of the PostScript printout. (If you know enough PostScript, the WPS-PLUS formatter uses a prologue file dev:[allin1.PRINT]WPSPLUS.PS which you could probably tinker with). D. | |||||
1578.2 | Postscript, WPS+ and other furry animals | SCOTTC::MARSHALL | Do you feel lucky? | Thu Oct 08 1992 13:54 | 48 |
Hi, Postscript is a page description language. IE it describes exactly what text, pictures, symbols, etc, appear exactly where and on what page. It is very much a final format; although possible, it is not sensible to try and use it as an intermediate format which you can then process further. What you can do, however, is as suggested in .1: you can put Postscript commands in the prologue file to squash and stretch the documents (ie as though the paper were made of rubber). Sufficiently small changes are needed that the changes in character height/width wouldn't notice. To make a document formatted for A4 (297 * 210 mm) print on 'American' paper (11 * 8.5 inches, 279.4 * 215.9 mm), use the Postscript commands: 215.9 210 div 279.4 297 div scale It's obvious which number comes from where, so you can change them to suit other paper sizes; eg to make an 'American' document print on A4, it's: 210 215.9 div 297 279.4 div scale However, how about this for a far simpler solution: When I create a document that I'm going to mail to someone, I don't put explicit page breaks in it. I leave that to the formatter at the recipient's end. If I have a chart or something that I don't want split over a page, I make sure it will fit on a page, and put page breaks around it. I don't think this is too much for senior managers to do (if they aren't competent or caring enough to do it, then they shouldn't be senior managers :-). That solves the page length problem. The page width between US and A4 is so small that it could be solved by everyone using the slightly narrower margins; the loss of two characters per line for the US people shouldn't upset anyone. Alternatively, assuming that there is a reasonable margin on the left and right, wider (ie US) documents could be made to fit on A4 by using a negative indent (is this possible?), thus absorbing the extra characters by narrowing the left and right margins. I guess there are lots of solutions, depends how imaginitive you want to get Scott |