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1483.1 | What's wrong with TeamLinks? | WOTVAX::DORANA | Confuse-a-cat Ltd | Wed Sep 23 1992 10:50 | 19 |
| Obviously, I don't know the reasons why the customer has gone for
cc:mail, but your note does prompt some questions...
As TeamLinks on top of DECmailworks offers a seamless integration into
the ALL-IN-1 file cabinet, and can use ALL-IN-1 V3.0 shared filing
abilities - why go for cc:mail which has none of the above?
I do not know of any tool that migrates ALL-IN-1 IOS documents to
cc:mail, and can't think of a reason why one should exist. It seems to
be counterproductive to actually help customers to throw out ALL-IN-1
in favour of a vastly inferior (at least in terms of functionality and
manageabilty ...) product supplied by someone else.
..and IBM would love it!
Cheers,
Andy
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1483.2 | Logic is nowhere to be found... | DPDMAI::RITZC | | Thu Sep 24 1992 17:33 | 27 |
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The customer is throwing IOS out for the following reasons:
- political (Digital shafted the decision maker years ago)
- cost (The 18 VAX support people, 3 large VAX's, & the disk farm)
- PC movement (PC LAN's have sprung up everywhere & started using IOS
for only mail.)
- IOS was frozen at V2.3 because the enhancements are of no benefit
to the customer.
Digital's options in the situation are:
. assist the customer with the migration and get services revenue or
. do nothing and get nothing.
You are correct. IBM's strategy in this geography is to attack the IOS
customer base. Their hook is "cost per seat". During these economic
times, every company is taking cost cutting measures. IBM is selling
cc:Mail at $250/seat which compares to $574/seat for IOS (which is the
customer's calculation, not Digital's).
ALL-IN-1 has been highly customized at the customer site. We have
countered with the benefits of those customizations, the "value added"
with our mail products, outsourcing, you name it.
Be watchful in your IOS accounts! When a customer talks about
migrating to a PC LAN Email, there are no VAXs in his picture, only
PC'S!
CAR
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1483.3 | Use cc:Mail to leverage PM V2.0 | GANTRY::HULL | Digital Services Delivery - Motown | Fri Sep 25 1992 14:39 | 15 |
| So the customer wants to go PCs only with cc:Mail? Then sell them our PC
LAN mail integration product, MAILbus POSTMASTER for LANs/WANs. It just
began shipping V2.0 this week, and it comes with a cc:Mail tie-in, and an
ALL-IN-1 IOS look-alike character-cell interface (called 'native' mail).
You can keep the VAX in the loop (without needing A1) for the Message
Router connection to the Postmaster to allow enterprise-wide connectivity.
For full details on PM V2.0 press keypad 7 to add MRKTNG::POSTMASTERV2 to
your notebook.
Do whatever you need to do to keep the business, but don't write it off
yet!
Regards,
Al
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1483.4 | alien LANs... | DPDMAI::RITZC | | Fri Sep 25 1992 18:29 | 5 |
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The customer has Wollengong LANs, so MAILbus Postmaster is not an
option unfortunately.
CAR
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