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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1445.0. "Sender doesn't work" by CROCKE::YUEN (Banquo Yuen, Darwin Australia) Thu Sep 17 1992 11:26

    Hello
    
    I look at the sender queue, there are entries back to one months ago.
    But some messages still going through slowly.  Then I look at the
    OA$MTI_ERR, and found that "insufficient privilege, need READALL" and
    some "Access violation ....".  So I give ALLIN1 account READALL
    privilege and look at the OA$MTI_ERR log again, the insufficient
    privilage message gone leaving only the "Access violation ...".
    So thought it was due to some corrupted messages due to previous
    insufficient privilege.  So I ran RS many times hoping that I could
    get rid of the corrupted entries.  Since it is V2.3, I don't know how
    to set the sender/fetcher retry limit, that is why I have to run RS
    many times.  However, this is not the end of the story.  At first, the
    number of entries in DQ is dropping, and the "Access violation ..."
    is still there, but then the number of entries in DQ sometimes
    increases and sometimes decreases and strange the entries there were
    not that day's entries, so it could not have been added by some other
    users in the meantime.  Moreover if I DQ serveral times, the order of
    the entries keeps changing (but without changing content). What's more,
    when I RS, sometimes I got the message "Error opening link to Message
    Router", and I wait for a while and try again, it goes through.
    
    Then I thought it could be the PENDING.DAT got corrupted instaed.
    However, what can I do with that.  Over the month, there should b
    housekeeping procedure to look and fix problem in pending.dat.
    
    What a long story !  Does anyone know what drama I am trying to tell
    and know what's wrong ?
    
    Thank you very much
    Banquo. 
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1445.1Partial answerIOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO-D/3CThu Sep 17 1992 12:1922
    A couple of answers:
    
    1. The entries moving in the queue is normal - in v2.3, each time you
    look at the queue it will move one entry from the top and put it on the
    bottom! This is because the code that looks at the queue (for DQ) is
    part of the same code that is used to take entries off the queue for
    sending - this code puts the entry back on the queue at the bottom in
    case there's a failure in sending (obviously pointless when you're
    doing a DQ).
    
    2. Are you sure these "old" entries aren't Deferred (D in the L/R
    column)?
    
    3. There were all sorts of things that could cause v2.3's sender to
    ACCVIO. To get any further, I think we'll need to know:
    
    	- what patches are installed?
    
    	- are there any "custom DSABs" installed (WordPerfect or
    	  something)?
    
    Dave.
1445.3New error arisesCROCKE::YUENBanquo Yuen, Darwin AustraliaFri Sep 18 1992 10:2635
    Hello Dave
    
    The ALL-IN-1 version is 2.3 and no patch recorded in the documentation.
    (I have just been looking after this client and I am not sure if the
    documentation is up-to-date or not).
    
    The old entries aren't deferred messages.
    
    There is WordPerfect integrated with ALL-IN-1.
    
    After one day of giving READALL privilege to the ALLIN1 account,
    the list in DQ seems a bit shorter.  However, there is new type of
    error in OA$MTI_ERR:
    
    %EMD-E-MRPROTERR, MR  replied with something unexpected, last sent E, and
    DISK$ALLIN1:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]ZUIEHEIEE.NBS;/msg:1, got back R, and SH
    %?, MESSAGE NUMBER 49534E45
    %EMD-E-MRPROTERR, MR  replied with something unexpected, last sent E, and
    DISK$ALLIN1:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE]ZUIEHEIEE.NBS;/msg:1, got back R, and SH
    %ABORT, abort
    %NOMSG, MESSAGE NUMBER 00013634
    $SUCCESS, Successful completion
    $SUCCESS, Successful completion
    $EXQUOTA, exceeded quota
    
    Does this mean that some quota is exceeded in the ALLIN1 account?
    What will the quota likely be?   Anyway, I am trying to find which
    is the quota exceeded.
    
    And of course, the ACCVIO is still there !!!
    
    Thank you very much
    Banquo.