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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

1288.0. "DNS images not installed after reboot ??" by BRSDVP::WILLEMSH () Fri Aug 21 1992 11:31

Hello,

Recently we installed ALL-IN-1 V3.0 at customer's site. He is running VMS V5.4-1
and has a VAX4300 dual host and 2 MVAX 3100 in LAVC.

The problem occurs when he reboots his system. ALL-IN-1 startup fails because
the images DNS$SHARE and DSN$RTL are not installed. (..Images must be installed..)

So, the customer needs to install these images first "MANUALLY" before 
restarting ALL-IN-1.

I suggested the customer already to put the installation of these images in
his SYSTARTUP_V5.COM , but, I think the customer has a point here, why does 
ALL-IN-1 not check if these images are installed, and if ALL-IN-1 needs them,
why doesn't ALL-IN-1 install them himself ?

I understood that the DNS images are used for DECNET extensions and DECNET 
Phase V, but what if the customer does not need DNS ? Or am I wrong and should
the system install these images at boot time ?


Thanks and regards


Hilde WILLEMS

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1288.1	See earlier here!	IOSG::PYE	Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice	`Fri Aug 21 1992 11:45`	4
	Please check earlier notes in this conference, where this has been discussed numerous times before. Graham
1288.2	DNS and VMS V5.4-1	BRSDVP::WILLEMSH		`Fri Aug 21 1992 14:58`	17
	Hai again, I did check all the notes about DNS in the conferences ALLIN1, V23 and V24. My real question is, We have a system V5.5-1 with ALL-IN-1 V3.0 and DNS is not installed manually, not in SYSTARTUP_V5 and not in SYSMAN. After rebooting the system, the DNS images are installed anyway and ALL-IN-1 starts up just fine. This customer runs VMS V5.4-1. Maybe this is the reason why DNS images are not installed and that ALL-IN-1 V3.0 does not start correctly after the reboot. Appreciate any help Hilde WILLEMS
1288.3	STARTNET ?	UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT	VivaceObjectTeamWorkLinks for IOS	`Fri Aug 21 1992 15:31`	14
	Hello Hilde, Running STARTNET.COM prior to A1V30START.COM can make the difference. Have a look at these lines from STARTNET.... $ IF .NOT. F$FILE_ATTRIBUTES("SYS$LIBRARY:DNS$SHARE.EXE","KNOWN") THEN - $ INSTALL ADD SYS$LIBRARY:DNS$SHARE.EXE/SHARE/PROTECT/OPEN Regards, Jan
1288.4	They aren't ours, so we can't install them!	IOSG::PYE	Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice	`Fri Aug 21 1992 15:59`	12
	Re .0, .1 I was thinking of the field test conference, where it was discussed, although I can't believe it hasn't been discussed here too. But then, I am getting old.... The Installation Guide specifies that the two DNS images are needed. It would not be correct for ALL-IN-1 to install the images of another product, and hence they are not in our startup. Graham
1288.5	SYS$STARTUP:OAFC$STARTUP.COM	UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT	VivaceObjectTeamWorkLinks for IOS	`Fri Aug 21 1992 16:07`	12
	>It would not be correct for ALL-IN-1 to install the images of another >product, and hence they are not in our startup. There are installed in SYS$STARTUP:OAFC$STARTUP.COM, which is invoke almost at the end of A1V30START. A little bit to late. Jan
1288.6	start the DNS clerk at startup time??	CHRLIE::HUSTON		`Fri Aug 21 1992 17:24`	11
	An easy fix for this is to run the DNS clerk startup as part of the systartup_v5.com. The FCS links against them and needs them installed. If you run the dns$clerk_startup in sys$startup the images will be installed. Note that this does some other things as well. If this is not suitable for you then either run oafc$startup by hand or install the images by hand. --Bob
1288.7	STARTNET does it	UTRTSC::SSO486::Schollaert	VivaceObjectTeamWorkLinks for IOS	`Mon Aug 24 1992 08:48`	12
	Bob, >If you run the dns$clerk_startup in sys$startup the images will be >installed. Note that this does some other things as well. That's why I vote for just running STARTNET.COM. It installs DNS$SHARE and thats enough for A1V3START.COM... Regards, Jan