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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1250.0. "Blank OWNER field in user's drawer profile..." by EVOIS8::DEC_HELLAS () Mon Aug 17 1992 07:58

    
    After upgrading to V3.0 some user profiles have the OWNER field blank.
    Ie, if one types: MGT MFC MD and then selects a drawer, some of the
    drawers have the OWNER field blank. The result is that those drawers
    may be accessed by anyone on the system! I tried to find a way to fill
    in the blank "OWNER" field, but no success. Any idea of how to do it?
    
    rgrds
    
    Nicholas
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1250.1Try thisAIMTEC::WICKS_AIt wasn't supposed to end this wayMon Aug 17 1992 17:5214
    Nicholas,
    
    You mean the OWNER field in PARTITION I Think (not PROFILE)
    
    The only way to fix this that I know of is to Remove and Readd the
    Partition Record (Since there isn't an Edit option), and what's more
    fun is that the options are on different menus!
    
    SM MFC MD REM
    SM MFC MP ADD
    
    Regards,
                                                        
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1250.2Try thisSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindMon Aug 17 1992 18:488
    How about:
    
    GET #DRAWER = drawer_name ! Something like [MANAGER]MAIN
    
    WRITE ADD PARTITION %KEY = #DRAWER, OWNER = owner
    
    ??
    Tony
1250.3Tried this, but same taste... No owner yet!EVOIS8::DEC_HELLASTue Aug 18 1992 13:4748
    
    Hi Tony,
    
    I followed your suggestion, and assume I was the "no owner" user:
    So, I did:
    
    <GET #DRAWER = [RALLIS.NICHOLAS]MAIN
    <WRITE ADD PARTITION %KEY = #DRAWER, OWNER = RALLIS.NICHOLAS
    
    After that, that is what happened:
    
    a. I did MGT MFC MD (sel Rallis...), I did an MDT and the
    OWNER field on RALLIS MAIN darwer profile, was still empty.
    
    b. I tried to SEL a drawer and I simply get an ... empty list 
    as follows:
    
      No.   Drawer                   Owner            Description
      ------------------------------------------------------------
       1
       2
     > 3
       4
      ...
      ...
    
    I do not know what happened? Same thing if from the same menu, I do an
    IAD... What went wrong?   
    
    c. while I am at the "Manage Drawers" menu screen and I rty to use the 
    up arrow to select the previous drawer, I get the message:
    
    Error occurred setting drawer.
    
    On the other hand, the down arrow works and I can select the next
    drawer...
    
    
    Any clues?
    
    
    rgrds
    
    Nicholas
    
    
    PS: I have not tried 1250.1 recommendations yet, as I tried yours
    first.
1250.4Wild guess from a V2.4 user!FORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOTue Aug 18 1992 13:594
Shouldn't the drawer owner be a VMS Username?

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1250.5Yes, VMS User name is important hereSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Aug 19 1992 16:038
    Right.  The OWNER field is filled with a VMS user name, not an ALL-IN-1
    account name.
    
    Of course, the author of the base topic must have been asleep when I
    explained all of this, plus the dangers of playing with PARTITION,
    during the ATS in Valbonne last May ;-)
    
    Tony
1250.6An answer is needed URGENTLY. We are awake!EVOIS8::DEC_HELLASWed Aug 19 1992 16:2318
1250.7Change the duff dataSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Aug 19 1992 19:4515
    Why not delete the PARTITION records that are bad and recreate them
    using the correct information?
    
    Or (easier) create a script which amends the OWNER field in the
    PARTITION records with the correct owner information.
    
    For example:
    
    GET #KEY = "[REDMOND]MAIN"
    WRITE CHANGE PARTITION %KEY = #KEY, OWNER="REDMOND"
    GET #KEY = "[LAAHS.KEVIN]MAIN"
    WRITE CHANGE PARTITION %KEY = #KEY, OWNER = "LAAHSK"
    etc etc etc.
    
    Tony
1250.8Some is gone some remainsEVOIS8::DEC_HELLASThu Aug 20 1992 09:2513
    
    Ok, I have corrected the OWNER field problem. What remains to be
    corrected now are the problems described in 1250.3 (b & c). In
    addition, I found out that, while in the "Manage Drawers" menu form, 
    if I use the down arrow (my only choice) to scroll through in ascending 
    order when I arrive at the last record and press once more the down
    arrow I get the same message: "Error occurred setting drawer". Also as I
    told previously in 1250.5, when I do MGT MFC MD IAD the process seems
    to hang, it loops but does not really consume CPU time.
    
    rgrds
    
    Nicholas 
1250.9Don't specify a node, and it'll be quicker.IOSG::STANDAGEOink...Oink...MoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooThu Aug 20 1992 10:5016
    
    
    Nicholas,
    
    You'll probably find that IAD isn't hanging, but it's taking a VERY
    long time to complete !
    
    If you perform an IAD *WITHOUT* specifying a nodename it will be
    substantially quicker than if you do specify a nodename. However,
    that's of course only helpful if you want to verify things on your own
    node.
    
    Kevin.
    
    
    
1250.10I don't think it loops, it hangs!EVOIS8::DEC_HELLASFri Aug 21 1992 09:1217
    
    Well, if you try to remove the node name when you do IAD it will not
    work... If you move the cursor to the OWNER field, after clearing the
    partition field, and hit <RET> it will not work. Try it and let me
    know... Here I am not talking about the keystroke sequence:
    EM FC DRM IAD from a user's ALL-IN-1 account...
    I am talking about the keystroke sequence (from the ALL-IN-1 manager's
    account: MGT MFC MD IAD. Try it and let me know. If the partition is
    present ALL-IN-1, then a DEcnet process is created and... then you will
    see...
    
    
    rgrds
    
    
    Nicholas 
    
1250.11looking confusedIOSG::STANDAGEOink...Oink...MoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooFri Aug 21 1992 10:0318
    
    
    Nicholas,
    
    Apologies, I misread one of your earlier messages - didn't realise you
    were from the manager's account.
    
    However, if I do SM MFC MD IAD and ONLY have the partition field is filled
    in (with NODE::) then it doesn't hang/loop for me. I've also tried
    the other combinations of specifying Owner, Drawer, or both and each
    time it works on my system.
    
    Are you running the SSB kit ?  Is there anything that has been specifically
    changed with the server(s) ?
    
    Kevin.
    
    
1250.12What is next?EVOIS7::DEC_HELLASFri Aug 21 1992 15:5428
    Kevin,
    
    if you read my note 1220 on this conference you will see how I got the
    kit. I got it last May in VBO in the ALL-IN-1 technical seminar, on a
    TK70 saying that I would use it to upgrade our ALL-IN-1 V2.4 in our
    PRODUCTION. I was told it was the correct kit. Thus I came and upgraded
    our ALL-IN-1 cluster in mid-June. Few days ago, I was told by G.P. in
    1220.* that the kit I used was not identical to the SSB kit! What am I
    supposed to do now? I have got now the CD with the A1030 kit (Revision
    123A). I am not an ALL-IN-1 programmer or expert. A small part of my other
    functions (MTS, Networks, Telecoms, Security, Contigency, Cluste
    Mgmt,etc) is ALL-IN-1 Mgmt. My main function is the I.S. mgmt for the
    DEC subsisdiary in Greece. Therefore, I try my best to work both in an
    administrative as well as technical level.
    
    What should I do now? Should I reinstall the SSB kit on top of what I
    have already installed? I really feel frustrated cought with thw wrong
    kit!
    
    
    rgrds
    
    
    Nicholas 
    
    
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1250.14Got the official kit, but same problem.EVOIS8::DEC_HELLASSat Aug 22 1992 09:3521
    Back again,
    
    I got the ALL-IN-1 V3.0 kit, from the Jul. 1992 CD (vol 1 of 7, "VMS
    Consolidated Software Distribution", Part No: AG-PASMU-RE). Well, I
    tried again to install it on my VS 3100, and to my big surprise when it
    started linking the OA$MAIN imageg, guess what, it never finished!!! It
    continued looping forever!!! This proves that, this problem, has nothing 
    to do with the kit revision (BLP vs SSB). 
    
    Pretty soon our engineers will start to install it to customer sites.
    What about if they have got the same problem? Whom should they turn to
    for advice? I have looked in the TIMA/STARS database, I could not find 
    anything related? 
    
    Anyone has any explanation and suggestion of where/how to identify and 
    correct the problem? 
    
    
    rgrds
    
    Nicholas
1250.13Can update to SSB kit.IOSG::BURTONALL-IN-1 BuilderMon Aug 24 1992 14:3315
    Nicholas,
    
    	Yes you can update your current system to the SSB kit.  You will
    need to check for any manual post-installation tasks that need to be
    performed.  In the network locations there is a separate
    post-installation saveset A1POST030.A which contains release notes
    describing these tasks.
    
    	See note 7.6 for details of how to find the network location.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Martin.