Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

    Someone who works there has confirmed the rumour, so I have unhidden the
    base note and deleted the early replies.
    
    Re .0
    
    ALL-IN-1 IOS has been developed in Reading, England for several years
    now. Although Charlotte's trouble will affect the valuable add-ons
    developed there, I currently believe that the corporation is smart
    enough not to kill off one of its only successful and profitable
    layered products. Although Reading has been (and is) under threats of
    cutbacks for two or three months now, the indications are that our work
    on IOS will continue.
    
    Condolences to the Charlotteans.
    
    Graham

 It is now official.   The Cross-Industries EIC management has decided that
 they do not wish to be in office and desktop systems integration business. 
 Nor do they wish to be in the engineering services business.  And, wonder
 of all wonders, they don't wish to be in any other business represented by
 anyone else occupying any kind of space in this facility.
 
 OPA is gone.  We have two weeks at most.  No one has said or done anything
 regarding the status of our current projects or other customer
 commitments.  They want us out regardless of impact on us or Digital.
 
 The birthplace of ALL-IN-1 is about to fade off the map.
 
 Professional decorum prevents me from making any other comments.  Suffice
 to say that I'll have just a few less Christmas cards to worry about from
 now on.
 
 Bob Hunt

        I would like to add some comments at the news Robert has shared
        with y'all.
        
        First, it looks like the central portion of the group which gave
        birth to ALL-IN-1 is about to fade away forever.  This is
        certainly a sad occasion.  We have been told that Ron Stokes'
        presentation to the Disparate Review committee went very well and
        his overall business plan was accepted with just minor action
        items.  In his business plan, the CIS EIC would be getting out of
        the Office & Desktop Integration business, the Engineering
        Services business and the Business Operations staff that resides
        in the OPA facility.
        
        I am not going to consider it official until I am directly
        notified, but the odds of any change of heart are virtually nil.
        
        The OPA facility and the SHALOT cluster won't be shut down ...
        yet.  Over the last two years, the group which was the O/P ACES
        was fragmented into many sub-groups.  The Sales & Marketing team
        started working in a "practice" based out of Chicago.  Then the
        Office ASSETS team was disbanded an a couple of people joined the
        Digital Solutions Library.  And, we've had a number of people who
        have made personal career changes, but who managed to still work
        in the OPA facility.  These people will still have a job for now.
        
        I should also point out that the 3 "functions" in the OPA facility
        which are being disbanded were all part of the same team when we
        were the O/P ACES.  When we became part of the CIS EIC, we lost a
        lot of our sense of teamwork and our group identity.  We also lost
        some valuable leaders.  The loss of our own identity with our own
        leadership led to where we are today.
        
        These layoffs come as no surprise to me.  It makes perfect sense
        when doing a business analysis of this EIC and the total EIC
        organizational structure.  Ultimately, this is a local
        optimization of the EIC at the expense of the broader corporate
        needs and goals.
        
        I'm sure that many of us will be writing farewell notes in this
        conference once it is completely official.  Many of us have no
        plans to move from the Charlotte area.  I hope that I will be able
        to stay in touch with the many friends I have made working for
        Digital and the O/P ACES.  The O/P ACES is the only group I have
        ever known which was greater than the sum of its people.
        
        _Mike

        Well, this is it!  Goodbye y'all!  I had planned for weeks to
        write a "weepy goodbye note", but the tears are gone.  Life
        moves on...
        
        I am planning to go out on my own with some friends.  I cannot
        say more than that in this conference.  For anyone who wishes 
        to keep in touch, I am available via the Internet on DECUServe.
        
        See ya around,
        
        _Mike - mail to DECWRL::"[email protected]"

    
    Good luck to all of you and thanks for the support you
    gave the people field in this note file.
    
    Good bye,
    
    Jan

 Good bye everyone.  With the exception of these last few weeks, I've loved
 every minute of the nine years I've been with Digital.   I wouldn't change
 a thing ...
 
 ALL-IN-1 was a wild and wonderful ride.  I rode it to some heights I
 couldn't even see when I first strapped in.
 
 - Carry on the old traditions but don't forget to invent new ones every day.
 - Keep the faith but don't forget to renew it as often as you can.
 - Cherish your memories but don't forget to dream constantly.
 
 I worry about Digital.  I hope it makes it back.
 
 Bob Hunt

    
    I feel extremely sad to see all those people leaving, having worked
    so closely with them for three years , I consider them to be friends.
    I feel like a rat that has left a sinking ship without really knowing
    it was sinking. I hope somehow we will meet and keep in contact.
    
    	Good luck,
    
    		Ben
    

    I'd like to echo Ben's remarks in .28...  Some of my best times in my
    career were in Charlotte and I will miss the friends I made there. 
    
    I wish you all well in your new ventures...
Dan

	I suppose I'll add my "good-bye" to all the rest.  Enough's been said;
there's really nothing I can add (!).  I guess this is what it took to get a
short note out of me.  8^)

	I've appreciated my interaction with all of you, and share the sentiments
of the others in wishing the rest of you all the best.  Sorry if this is a bit
"dry"; there's not a whole lot of emotion left in me.  (It only adds to the
irony when my manager presented me with my 20-year plaque only a few hours
after the "termination notification" meeting...)

	Have fun, and keep the faith,

	F

    I'm sorry to hear you're going as well, Frank!
    I'm still dead impressed with the ALL-IN-1 Programming level II
    course, which coincidentally I'm teaching this week.
    
    Thanks for the help and good luck and all the best, to you and all 
    those others that are leaving.
    
    Arjen
                          

�    I'm sorry to hear you're going as well, Frank!
�    I'm still dead impressed with the ALL-IN-1 Programming level II
�    course, which coincidentally I'm teaching this week.
 
	Hey, Arjen; at least I've got a *little* bit of good news for you.
Guess what my last project was, before being terminated?  Updating the AP II
course for V3.0.  With the assistance of Catrin Hughes in IOSG::, the V3.0
AP II course has just been turned over to Ed.Services for release engineering!
Hope you like it; it's my "swan song"...

	F

    GoodBye Frank - I guess its the Company's loss... Having met you at a
    DECUS, it really makes me wonder if DEC has a future if it lays off
    its best people.
                                                         
     Winton 

    Frank is incredibly effective in bringing across technically based 
    issues to a mixed/average/normal audience = OA customers. He can make 
    people understand things.
    
    The quality of his PHASE II presentation in MUNICH early 91 - 2 days 
    for european customers - has skyhigh ( I had to attend this event twice 
    therefore ).
    
    First experience of his rare quality was a pilot training of MESSAGE 
    ROUTER stuff related to A1 V2.1 taking place at some hot rented place 
    in EUROPARK Munich. ( I was just entering A1 space ... ).
    He gave the audience ( mixed levels, european DECcies, Ben Geerdes in 
    the backrow, later to explain some job offers for AFSG Valbonne ) using 
    the first two hours a VERY IMPROVISED very LIVE and therefore very 
    EFFECTIVE technical summary of ALL-IN-1s ... let's say 'structure' ... 
    and it made me understand things ... 
    
        *** IT WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE ... I will never forget ***
    
    
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    DEC - terminating such incredible talent - turns definitely into a 
    "WRONG" environment for 'dedicated' people and 'fun' work.
    
    Let's say - Don Vickers - should have started "ALL-IN-1 Corp." a long 
    long time ago.
    

    Michael Goral @ZUO
    DTN 760 3605

    
    Well, folks, it's time for me to turn off the lights in my cube and
    walk away into the sunset.  It's been a great five years and I'll 
    never forget the you folks.  I had the opportunity to work with a 
    most remarkable group of people here in Charlotte and had the
    chance to learn and share with many of you through this notesfile.
    
    I wish each of you the best in your future endeavo(u)rs.  
    
    Good luck in all that you do...
    
    Jack Creamer
    

    Hello to all,

    Well it's over.  This is my final act as a DEC employee.  As many of
    you know, our office in Charlotte is closing.  Out last day is today,
    September 18th.  They told us "We have chosen not to be in the Office
    and Desktop Integration business".  

    Unlike the EIC, I am remaining in the Office and Desktop Integration
    business.  Along with a few other excellent office people, I am joining
    a consulting practice providing user-centric office products and
    services.  Of course, I will continue providing real computer (PC)
    solutions.  If you or your customer needs consultants that put the user
    first, calls us at: 

    	Excellent Office Systems, Inc. 
    	608 Pheasant Lane
    	Deerfield, IL 60015-3637 
    	708.215.9853

    I'll be reachable on the (extended) net at:
    	
    	DECWRL::"[email protected]"

    and at home:

    	Mike Gozaloff
    	1935 Forest Lake Drive
    	Rock Hill, SC 29732
    	803.328.2353

    I'll miss working with you all and look forward to doing it again soon. 

    Bye for now,

    gozer

    

    Well, some of us ex-Charlotteans are back contracting to DEC:
    
    Contracting to DEC-Canada @AKO1:
    --------------------------------
    Mike Lampson - GIADEV::CAFE1
    Steve Sealy  - GIADEV::CAFE2
    Jack Creamer - GIADEV::CAFE3
    Hal Pryor    - GIADEV::CAFE4
    
    We're only here for a short while.  I am available on the Internet at
    DECWRL::"[email protected]".  I now work for Excellent Office
    Systems, Inc. along with Don Vickers, Mike Gozaloff and Joe Whatley.
    
    Hal has started a company called Phoenix Technology Assoc.  Jack
    Creamer and Bob Hunt have joined him.
    
    At least 8 ex-Charlotte people now work for Network Computing Corp. in
    Charlotte.  Sadly, they do not have network access.  Those people are
    Brenda Lampson, Murali Atyam, Dave Yommer, Rebecca Jandrisevits, Danny,
    Twitty, Mark Cotton, Pat Rosa and Douglas Welton.
    
    Dan Lanphear joined Glaxo in the RTP area.  Dan Medvid joined First
    Union bank.  Others are still looking.
    
    Cheers,
    
    _Mike

It is with some sadness that I post this note. I have decided to leave
Digital's employment, and go to work for Pheonix Technology Associates,
Incorporated. My last day will be this friday (5-feb) The last ten years with 
Digital have been very rewarding for me, and the years spent working with the
ALL-IN-1 product are some of the most memorable. I have really enjoyed
the opportunities I had to meet many of you. I certainly hope that I have
been able to provide some assistance to those of you who face customers
each day and that you will remember me when I am that customer :^).

Please do not post replies to this just to say goodbye. You can send
me mail through friday, or call me: DTN 367-5455. After friday I can
be reached at home for the next month:

	10301 Cedar Trail #306
	Charlotte, NC 28210
	phone: (704) 542-0429

I'll miss you all!

Rick Warford