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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1181.0. "SMNETUPDT job processes unchanged records" by KAOFS::D_STREET () Tue Aug 04 1992 17:32

    Hello,
     I have a customer who is getting records updated during the
    SMNETUPDT.COM which have not been changed. The procedure reports 28
    profile records changed, every other run. We had him copy the
    profile.dat and network.dat files before and after each run, and do a
    DIFF on them, and it showed no differences. The only other strange
    thing about the "problem" run is that it indicates that it is "looking
    for updates for SANDS on SANDS after            " with no date.
    
     Are there any explainations, or other things to check ?
    
    
    						Derek Street
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1181.1This STARS article?AIMTEC::WICKS_ADEC Mail Works for ME sometimesWed Aug 05 1992 00:1911
    Derek,
    
    There's an article in STARS entitled
    
    Network Update (UA) Not Updating Information From One Node In Network         
    
    Can you get to that and see if it's the same thing.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1181.2STARS article on different problemKAOFS::D_STREETWed Aug 05 1992 20:2616
    Hello,
     I have looked at the STARS article, and it would not seem to be the
    same problem. In that case it could not find records on the other node
    to process. In my case, it finds tha same records to process every
    other run. 
    
    "Looking for updates for SANDS   on SANDS   after          "
         change record obtained for HORVATHJ on SANDS
             record updated successfully
         change record obtained for DEFRANCOJ on SANDS
             record updated successfully
    
     The customer feels that the missing date is signifigant, in that the
    run that does work, has a proper date following the "after".
    
    							Derek Street
1181.3put a date in there?AIMTEC::WICKS_ADEC Mail Works for ME sometimesWed Aug 05 1992 21:588
    Derek,
    
    What about writing a date into the field (in NBS format) and then
    trying the job again.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1181.4No field to force value intoKAOFS::D_STREETWed Aug 05 1992 23:137
    Hello,
     I looked in SMNETUPDT.COM, and found it does "run oa$lib:smnetupdt"
    without setting any variables prior to the RUN statement. The message
    is generated within that .EXE. I don't see an oppertunity to force a
    date value into the field. 
    
    							Derek Street
1181.5I'm not as hairy as Andy, but....IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeThu Aug 06 1992 11:424
    I assume Andy means force a value into "Last update" field in the
    problem record in the Network.dat file.
    
    Graham
1181.6You asked for ideas!OASS::PCMIKE::lamberson_mThu Aug 06 1992 13:5711
Derek,

 Is the customer running in a "cluster" configuration? If so, have you 
checked to see if the UA job is running on 1 particular node each time it 
picks up the updates? The "timestamp" information from the last update from 
that node should be held in OA$DATA:MNODES.DAT which would be accessed via 
the ISM menu off of the MM screen. Make sure that only one copy of the file 
exists, it is in the disk:[ALLIN1.DATA_SHARE] directory and that the same 
"disk:" is being pointed to by each node in the cluster.

HTH
1181.8problem fixed, but WHY?KAOFS::D_STREETMon Aug 10 1992 16:2013
    Hello,
     The customer is not running in a cluster, and did not have multiple
    copies od OA$DATA:MNODES.DAT. When they checked the node out via the MM
    and ISM (on one of the days they expected it to fail, they found the 
    "Last update time stamp" field was all BLANKS. For whatever reason,
    they filled it with all ZEROS, and since that time it has worked just 
    fine. That leaves us with a couple of questions.
    
    1. Why would it alternate from a valid to invalid value in that field.
    2. What is it about entering ZEROS that would fix it? (assuming we can
       figure out what was causing it in the first place!!)
    
    						Derek Street.
1181.9The return of the blank timestampKAOFS::D_STREETThu Sep 03 1992 21:185
    Sorry to report that the problem has returned. The "Last update time
    stamp" returned to being all blanks. what kinds of things can I do to
    isolate the problem?
    
    						Derek Street.
1181.10Where is the Network Profile developer?AIMTEC::WICKS_AIt wasn't supposed to end this waySat Sep 05 1992 00:211
    Anything in the log file - if not then I don't know