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Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
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Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 4343 |
Total number of notes: | 18308 |
1050.0. "How to copy selected SFCs to test system?" by WR1FOR::MANNONBR () Wed Jul 15 1992 02:04
I originally inserted this note in the A1SFCP conference but was
advised to enter the note in ALL-IN-1, as well.
--Bruce
<<<SHALOT::NOTE$:[NOTES$LIBRARY]A1SFCP.NOTE;1 >>>
-< ALL-IN-1 Shared File Cabinet Package >-
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Note 568.0 How to copy over selected FCs to test system? 2 replies
WR1FOR::MANNONBR 40 lines 14-JUL-1992 19:10
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I called the ASSET hotline, today -- only to have my ASSet kicked!
I was told that the SFCP is no longer supported! Are they crazy!
A more humane approach would be to (instead of pulling the rug out from under
us DIGITAL support-types) provide internal support until we can get our
customers upgraded to ALL-IN-1 V30 (ie. 9 months after v3.0 is out).
Many of us that have SFCP customers who use WordPerfect and can't upgrade until
WPCORP releases their ALL-IN-1 V3.0 integration. Therefore, they can't
upgrade their ALL-IN-1 system; they can't migrate their SFCP.
I am in the process of setting up a test system with ALL-IN-1 V2.3, SFCP, and
WordPerfect with the intention of experiencing the entire upgrade process in a
nonproduction environment. I:
- copied over the ALL-IN-1 directory tree,
- registered the ALL-IN-1 license
- inserted A1.CLD into DCLTABLES
- inserted A1HELP.HLP into HELPLIB.HLB
- copied over SYSUAF.DAT, RIGHTSLIST.DAT
- copied over A1V23START.COM, A1SFCPSTART.COM
ALL-IN-1 appears to work, except I am getting error messages that I think are
due to the VMS account for SFCP maintenance not being on the test system, yet.
My customer (for whom I am providing system management support) has 77
file cabinets some of which have 1000, 2000, even 3000 documents in
them. I need to anticipate how much time to allocate to the converting
from SFCP to the ALL-IN-1 V3.0 file cabinet.
Therefore, I'd like to copy over about 10 file cabinets of various sizes
and run the conversion script. I understand that the conversion
script(s) that come with V3.0 convert all cabinets, at once. There is no
way to specify a particular cabinet.
Is that really true? If so, does anybody have conversion performance
or conversion information that will help me to
spec and carry out this effort?
--Bruce
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1050.1 | Suggested Method ok? | WR1FOR::MANNONBR | | Wed Jul 15 1992 02:09 | 123 |
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My customer just provided me with some notes concerning moving SFCs. I
have never had the opportunity to move these things. Actually, I don't
remember even moving a user since V2.2 (but I remember the pain).
Does anyone have any comments on the following method?
--Bruce
MOVING SHARED FILE CABINETS AND USERS TO
DIFFERENT DISKS
SHARED FILE CABINETS:
Shared File Cabinets must be moved manually via the Backup command.
You cannot use the ALL-IN-1 move user option.
Note: Make sure users are not using the Shared File Cabinet before
it is moved.
SFC USAGE TEST:
$ SET DEFAULT old_disk:[SYSADMIN]
$ SHOW DEVICE/FILES
Will display if any of the SFC files are open.
SFC MOVE:
$ SET DEFAULT old_disk:[SYSADMIN]
$ BACKUP old_disk:[SYSADMIN.sfc...] -
new_disk:[SYSADMIN.sfc...]/log/owner=original
For example:
$ BACKUP USER$DISK:[SYSADMIN.TC...] -
USER$DISK5:[SYSADMIN.TC...]/LOG/OWNER=ORIGINAL
SFC FILE COUNT VERIFICATION:
$ DIRECTORY USER$DISK:[SYSADMIN.TC...]/GRAND
$ DIRECTORY USER$DISK5:[SYSADMIN.TC...]/GRAND
SFC DELETE OLD LOCATION:
$ SET DEFAULT old_disk:[SYSADMIN]
$ DELETE old_disk:[SYSADMIN.sfc...]/log
$ DELETE old_disk:sfc.DIR;*/LOG
SFC ALL-IN-1 DISK LOCATION CHANGE:
From ALL-IN-1 SYSTEM Manager account:
MUA Manage user account
SEL sfc Select Shared File Cabinet
e.g. SEL TC
E Edit SFC profile to change disk location
SFC UAF DISK LOCATION CHANGE:
NONE
SFC TALLY SHEET:
Example:
SFC old_disk new_disk ALL-IN-1 DELETE
TC DUA1 DIA5 Y Y
USER ACCOUNTS:
User accounts can be moved to a different disk via the ALL-IN-1
System Manager Account. However it does not delete the files from
the old disk location. This is a bug that will be fixed with the
next ALL-IN-1 release. The deletion must be done manually.
INDIVIDUAL USER MOVE:
From ALL-IN-1 SYSTEM Manager account:
MUA Manage user account
SEL Select user account to move
MAA Move account to another disk
Enter new Disk Name, Start date, Start time.
MULTIPLE USER MOVES:
From ALL-IN-1 SYSTEM Manager account:
MUA Manage user account
I Index user list
sel (x) Select/Highlight (x) users to move
XMAA Move accounts to another disk
Enter new Disk Name, Start date, Start time.
USER VERIFICATION:
Verify account/s moved successfully.
USER DELETE OLD LOCATION:
$ SET DEFAULT old_disk:[username}
$ DELETE old_disk:[username...]/log
$ DELETE old_disk:username.DIR;*/LOG
[SM_F]HARDWARE-DISKS MOVING SFCs AND USERS
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1050.3 | Logic, ASSETS, and the state of the universe | SIOG::T_REDMOND | Thoughts of an Idle Mind | Wed Jul 15 1992 14:56 | 17 |
| I agree with Paul, applying logic to many of the decisions made by the
ASSETS people is not wise to do. They apparently live in a world where
process is everything and customer satisfaction doesn't count, at least
not enough to rate on their performance review.
Anyway, the reasoning behind the withdrawal of SFCP support apparently
goes like this:
- ALL-IN-1 V3.0 provides sharing filing
- ALL-IN-1 V3.0 provides a migration path
- There is no funding to provide an organization with SFCP support
- Ergo, no support, so withdraw it quick.
In Europe, the situation is slightly different and SFCP will be
supported until the end of 1992.
Tony
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1050.4 | Just my opinion | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes | Wed Jul 15 1992 18:18 | 31 |
| OK I admit I was the one that recommended Bruce bring the discussion
over here for two reasons:
1) firstly to bring to the attention of the greater noting public the
silly situation with ASSETS in the U.S amd I think we've done that.
- I believe the number of supported ASSETS is now down to 3
(and one of those is actually a product that Charlotte retired
sometime ago)
2) to see whether anyone had any comments on the procedure Bruce
planned to undertake - and I guess we haven't really discussed that
yet so here's my opinion for openers.
Obviously he can't do a real migration yet since WordPerfect haven't
released their v3.0 compatible version.
Notes 257, 818 and 848 talk about SFCP migration so Bruce can look
there for some help - one thing he'll need to watch out for is the
absence of the LANGUAGE field in the documents in the v2.3 FileCabinet
- I think this is release noted.
Secondly a sanity-check of the SFCP file-cabinets would be a good idea
to check that the VMS directories exist and that the VMS accounts
exist in RIGHTSLIST.
Personally, I would place a higher level of importance to checking that
the cabinets are intact than the documents within them - call me
irresponsible I know you will.
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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