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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1003.0. "XFM option displays the incorrect message" by GIDDAY::SETHI (Man from Downunder) Wed Jul 08 1992 08:06

    G'day,
    
    I have come across three misfeatures today so I will create a topic for
    each one.
    
    ALL-IN-1 Version 3.0
    
    The customer does the following
    
    1. EM I
    2. Selects n number of messages
    3. XFM
    
    The message displayed is "n number of messages have been cross-filed",
    this is incorrect.
    
    Could you please test this for me in Australia we have had a few
    problems with our ALL-IN-1 Version 3.0 kit and I have no access to
    Version 3.0.  I know this is not a bug report conference I just want to
    inform the larger community.
    
    Sunil
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1003.1GIDDAY::SETHIMan from DownunderWed Jul 08 1992 08:195
    Sorry I have come across two misfeatues and not 3 as stated.
    
    Sunil
    
    :-)
1003.2typos in OA.A1$MSGUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTIOS: better than the real thingWed Jul 08 1992 12:5728
    
    Hi Sunil,
    
    >Could you please test this for me in Australia 

    Sorry, my boss won't let me.
    
    Problem looks like a typo.
    
    Entries for file message operations in OA.A1$MSG contain wrong text:

XFO_FILE_MESSAGE_0	<No messages have been crossfiled>

XFO_FILE_MESSAGE_1	<1 message has been crossfiled>

XFO_FILE_MESSAGE_MANY	<!AS messages have been crossfiled>/FAO_COUNT=1

    You and our customers can add the corrected version of
    these messages thought CM in SITEOA.A1$MSG... (element = SITEOA,
    type = A1$MSG). 
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
    
    
    
1003.3What do you want the message to say?IOSG::MAURICECeci n&#039;est pas une noteWed Jul 08 1992 14:079
    Just clarifying - you do know that File Message is a crossfile? So with
    that in mind the text of the message is not really wrong. In fact it
    may help the user realise that FM = XFD. Many of us wanted to change FM
    into RFD, but this was rejected on the grounds that we could not change
    the behaviour of existing functionality.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
1003.4consistencyUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTIOS: better than the real thingWed Jul 08 1992 14:4210
    >               -< What do you want the message to say? >-
    
    I want consistency between the option text and the result message.
    
    So the menu option  "XFM     File messages" should finish
    with "messages filed".
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan    
1003.6Just some food for thoughtGIDDAY::SETHIMan from DownunderThu Jul 09 1992 01:4821
    G'day,                          
    
    I should have realized that the XFM and FM option do cross-file
    messages.  I had to customize a this option a few years ago at a site
    to not cross-file.
    
    Is there a reason why FM and XFM cross file messages ?  In a
    conventional office this would not happen as far as I know.  Apart from
    that we do have Cross-file options called XFD and XFF, I know they are
    for documents and not EM's.  Just for consistency it would be a good
    idea that the FM etc. options do not cross-file and the cross-file ones
    do.  Just some food for thought.
    
    Re .2
    
    Jan
    
    I just missed a full stop, just think you could have got a trip to 
    Australia because of a missing full stop :-).
    
    Sunil
1003.7Trivially...IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeThu Jul 09 1992 14:386
    I'm sure someone with even more historical trivia wasting most of their
    brain space will correct me on this, but I believe this behaviour is
    probably another of those things that we did to make the product look
    more like DECmail....
    
    Graham
1003.8RE: .7IOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO-D/3CFri Jul 10 1992 17:154
    'fraid so.
    
    Dave (ALL-IN-1 historian)
    
1003.9SAHQ::WOLFEJohn Wolfe - (404)-924-6463Fri Jul 10 1992 20:1110
	Strange!  You make FM be a crossfile so it works like DECmail. 

	I would guess the demand for this came from internal users? We 
have been customizing FM to be a refile on our internal systems since 2.2
or maybe earlier.

	Ah well, I guess this keeps everyone busy :-).

	John