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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

991.0. "Licensing" by CHEST::ALLIN1 () Mon Jul 06 1992 12:39

I have a question regarding ALL-IN-1 licencing:

A customer has ALL-IN-1 V2.4 and wishes to upgrade to 3.0 in the future.
His present V2.4 license expired earlier this year (it was a temporary 
licence) so he can no longer use ALL-IN-1. The part no. for this V2.4 is 
QL-AAAA9-QD which is ALL-IN-1 personal 4 users UK or British (I think). 
Can somebody tell me the following :

1. can somebody confirm this part number (or somebody I can contact
   - cannot find this part no. in DECdirect for example)

2. will this present license allow him to get on the update licence 
   and MDDS scheme and therebye automatically get the new licence,
   media and documentation

3. If so, will the installation of V3.0 then succeed. According to the 
   installation guide (upgrade), the installation checks for the existence of 
   an existing licence and then proceeds to update the license database if OK. 
   What it checks for I do not know.

I am more interested in 3. What does the installation check for ?

Many thanks in advance.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
991.1	A shot at #3	IOSG::TALLETT	Arranging bits for a living...	`Mon Jul 06 1992 15:21`	48
	Since you are mostly interested in #3... 1) Don't know about part numbers 2) Don't know about updates, never heard of MDDS 3) I assume from your note that this is a single language installation. If so, then the installation checks for a license named ALLIN1 or ALLIN1-PERSONAL and then checks: If the license has a product date (internal VTX licenses usually do, customer licenses [nearly] always don't) it must be AFTER 14-Feb-1992 (This field is just called "Date" in the SHOW LICENSE command and is NOT the termination date, it has little to do with the current date). If the license has a version (never seen one that does) it must be V3.0 or greater. If the license has a RESERVE_LIST (LMF V1.1 feature, if you haven't put one on, then it won't have one) then we check that the current VMS user is in the reserve list. If the license has an termination date (most don't, some FT licenses do) then we check its not expired. In all these cases, blank means VALID. You will also need enough units to get the license to load, 0 units is infinite. The number you need varies with license type and CPU. In fact, to be strictly accurate, the installation procedure itself doesn't do the checks, it runs an .EXE that calls the LMF system service to do the checks. I say this because the system service has been known to change (like they added RESERVE_LISTS) and you often don't need to change the code to use the new features provided by the system service. These checks apply to image activation as well as installation. To see if your license passes the test, use SHOW LICENSE rather than LICENSE LIST, as it is the one in memory that counts, not the one in the database. (Although expired licenses never make it into memory). Regards, Paul
991.2	VTX has most of the answers	AIMTEC::WICKS_A	DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes	`Mon Jul 06 1992 18:46`	17
	Re .0, Dear Anonymous, Part numbers can be verified in VTX either on the SPD page or on the ESSB page. It took me under a minute to find QL-AAAA9 and i'm accessing these databases from the U.S. It says it's "4 USR Update" MDDS is a type of contract and stands for "Media Documentation Distribution Service" (o.k Paul?) it's the mass distribution ship process that sent K603 and v3.0 SSB to everyone and his grandmother. As to whether buying this service gets you the license well I thought that DECdirect could tell you that. Regards, Andrew.D.Wicks